N.H. governor’s policy to destroy records within 30 days raises transparency concerns
bostonglobe.comSubmitted by mindi4nh t3_1266ldh in newhampshire
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smartest_kobold t1_je7wf3n wrote
I wonder what he's doing that he needs to destroy the evidence so urgently.
nhgeek2004 t1_je7ylp2 wrote
Accountability is a real bother for today's busy leader.
AstroPen4 t1_je80gap wrote
what’s he hiding? 🤨
nixstyx t1_je84a29 wrote
Could someone with a subscription tell me what kind of records we're talking about?
Galvitron420 t1_je85h7j wrote
Emails, memos, text, documents, drafts
When you click the link, click the AA at the top of the screen it will give you the option to “show reader” click that and you can read without a subscription, works for most paywalled things in my experience.
valleyman02 t1_je8842r wrote
It's not easy creating outrage. Give the poor billionaires a break?
pumpkinpatch1982 t1_je8dtxf wrote
I mean just take a look at all the bullshit to get the Laurie list released. There should always be accountability and those in power need to be held accountable if they screw up. I just wonder about all the stuff that we don't hear about.
Auntienursey t1_je8hn2l wrote
Yep, a replusican through and through, doing shady shit and doesn't want a paper trail
philm162 t1_je90w6t wrote
This will come back to haunt his presidential ambitions.
MistakenLabotomy t1_je961z6 wrote
Sununu: " I'm for small, transparent government, but that government is a dictatorship and not transparent at all. Oh yea and no weed you stinky hippies."
impvlerlord t1_je9bbp0 wrote
Scumnunu is transparent — in the sense that anybody with half a brain can see through his bullshit and see that he’s a typical nepo-baby, for the business & not the people politician like virtually every other politician in this country.
InevitableMeh t1_je9bib3 wrote
It should be 7 years across the government to allow for legal statute of limitations for potential investigations.
bigmikekbd t1_je9cylf wrote
The records are not theirs to destroy.
CLS4L t1_je9eug7 wrote
We a criminal is president his people had their hand in the cookie jar. Oh you in trouble now
kitchinsink t1_je9lv7k wrote
Yeah, no. This is not defensible. Transparency is really important, and this isn't it.
DOGO8991 t1_je9o8dc wrote
I have a hard time understanding why anyone lives in NH when every surrounding state is superior
agent_tits t1_je9pkno wrote
I appreciate the sentiment but surely we can do better than Scumnunu.
Poonunu? Sunono?
impvlerlord t1_je9pyad wrote
Lmao, a guy at work always calls him that and while not the smoothest of wordplay, it gets the point across 😂
I’ve heard Sunono before though, that’s a good one as well considering his veto record
distressefakeleather t1_je9qmd2 wrote
This is a pretty egregious misuse of power, but the state itself is a fantastic place to live in general. Many people can find a lifestyle they desire in so many different parts of the state.
A politician or political engines misuse of power in a state can have a slow but impactful effect on everyday life of the citizens. But with the cycle being what it is and the NH house being so large any meaningful change for better or worse is hard to come by.
almamaters t1_je9r903 wrote
Thank you, u/Galvitron420! Great tip!!
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slumberlust t1_je9t56e wrote
> Many people can find a lifestyle they desire in so many different parts of the state.
This is true of every surrounding state as well. What about NH do you specifically think is attractive? The whites are great.
dark_frog t1_je9uixr wrote
He's not sure, that's why everything has to go
beyond_hatred t1_je9undq wrote
It should be indefinite. There's no technical reason why the state can't retain all records permanently. Storage and archiving are cheap.
Also, some crimes don't have a time limitation for how long they can be prosecuted. If the records are there 50 years back, it might make all the difference.
Also, the statute of limitations for any given crime is enforced by the courts. It should not be short-circuited by a state employee pre-emptively destroying potential evidence.
NathanVfromPlus t1_je9vgjf wrote
The rhetoric of "[Region X] is bad, so people should just leave there" isn't really helpful at all. It overlooks the many challenges that might keep people from leaving their homes. You could just as easily say the same thing about the people living in Yemen, or Detroit, or Palestine, or West Virginia, or Ukraine, or Florida. "If it's such a horrible place to live, then why don't the people there just leave?" Because it's really not that easy.
NathanVfromPlus t1_je9vj0g wrote
Enjoy your cake.
impvlerlord t1_je9wog5 wrote
Appreciate it buddy!
Wasteland_Mystic t1_jea0d5e wrote
I work in an industry where all records must be saved. Not just for weeks, months or years. Forever. Why? Because the Federal Government told us we need to. We had everything on paper records for the longest time and are moved over to almost 100% digital record keeping. It is doable. There is no good reason why we don’t have this for all government offices.
AmazingChicken t1_jea4p14 wrote
Fucking paywall.
alkatori t1_jea7hnr wrote
It's because they don't want the liability and potential costs of investigation. You're right, it could be stored indefinitely. It's likely not worth keeping all records after 10 or 20 years vs the continual cost of storing it. But certainly longer than 30 days.
I used to work in public safety, 911 systems primarily.
Chicago holds 911 and radio recordings for 90 days.
They could hold them longer with the equipment they have. They don't want to. They want to be able to respond to all information requests with the fact that they only retain data for 90 days.
Fraggle-of-the-rock t1_jea7if0 wrote
You’d be surprised to know how many divisions in the State actually still use physical files. The division I work for has to keep physical files and record’s because our computer system is 20+ years old, not internet based and can’t support saving documents. Basically, it’s a simple database. If our records go up in smoke, we’ve got very little info to run on. That’s the least of the worries though.
alkatori t1_jea7tht wrote
For the most part. My family is here. :)
I wouldn't want to move to MA due to their gun laws.
ME and VT are just as nice as NH. I personally think VT is a more beautiful state up north.
distressefakeleather t1_jea9r1d wrote
In central NH, proximity to the mountains, ocean, and cities large (Boston) and small. One thing I wish was better: the food. But this is getting better in recent years.
sgtragequit t1_jeabba8 wrote
if nh doesnt wanna legalize, im more than happy paying maines taxes for it ¯\(ツ)/¯
MistakenLabotomy t1_jeaeju5 wrote
Absolutely! I'll support all the surrounding states that have legal trees. Maine is kind of a hike and I only get to MA once in a while. It would be nice to be able to stop on my way home from work. Black market for now I guess.
ImportantImplement9 t1_jeagncw wrote
I can only see the headline, but this is completely unacceptable!!
Wish I could read the whole thing :-\
agent_tits t1_jeak1ze wrote
Lmao I can’t argue with that.
Admittedly as soon as I started trying to improve upon it I had nothing good lol
Maybe just “that guy who’s John Sununu’s brother and son”
casewood123 t1_jeatb58 wrote
Those fuckers have no problem keeping records on us plebes for perpetuity.
Galvitron420 t1_jeauwjy wrote
DigTreasure t1_jeaw4bm wrote
You haven't heard about SVB, and it's ties to NH, and Mexican cartels? All with the approval from Gov SnoopSnoop
jeagerkinght t1_jeb2n2y wrote
Currently building a storage server for a municipal government in central NH, storage is not "cheap". I certainly agree that records should be kept for longer than 30 days, but indefinite is also way too long. The 7 years comment seems appropriate
impvlerlord t1_jeb8ikb wrote
Honestly the last one would probably piss him off the most 😂😂
TreeHuggingHippyMan t1_jeb9wr3 wrote
What’s he afraid of in his prenup for the Presidency. Chump is too transparent . Sort of reminds me of how Trump broadcast his signals wY early 😆
Jotch777 t1_jebjbsc wrote
There will never be a NH Governor who votes for legalization before it’s federally legal, as they want to control it like liquor and only have it at the state stores.
cringequeenxd t1_jebzdgc wrote
and here i thought this man couldn’t get any stupider
fallfallingleaves t1_jec90pn wrote
This isn't new news. I'm not sure why the Boston Globe just picked up on it. The Eagle Tribune reported on this almost 3 years ago:
gvuio t1_jecibu2 wrote
It is NH policy to purge records. To get a casino dealer license you have to get fingerprinted every year. Why? The state police purges the records yearly. Can’t trust that pesky cloud!
KrissaKray t1_jeeiupw wrote
You can tell these potheads this over and over but it will never sink in.
KrissaKray t1_jeeizod wrote
Changing politicians' names to mock them is max level cringe for adults.
KrissaKray t1_jeejftf wrote
agent_tits t1_jeeluyx wrote
So is saying “max level cringe” as a singular adjective but here we both are, racing to the bottom
KrissaKray t1_jeeml89 wrote
I don’t take criticism from people who change people’s names like children.
agent_tits t1_jeen8o9 wrote
Lol I tried to make this odd confrontation sort of fun, but yikes
Happy_Confection90 t1_jef5wuy wrote
But it's 2023. You don't have to keep physical copies to store files indefinitely. All you need is a scanner and a server that fits in a closet sized room.
jeagerkinght t1_jef8m3z wrote
Oh I agree completely, digital is the way to go, but by no means is digital storage "cheap". Cheaper than it used to be? Certainly. But not "cheap", especially on a government budget.
To throw this into perspective, the city that I work for is spending $82k on 50ish TB of storage and backing that up. And that doesn't include the operating system to run on the server, nor the power to actually run it. Thats just the physical system. Not to mention that that hardware is only good for so long, then it need to be replaced and all that data needs to be migrated. And you need to pay someone to manage that server to make sure nothing gets corrupted or lost due to unforeseen hardware failure.
I still think that this data should be kept for 7 years, maybe longer, but no matter how you store it, it's not "cheap".
mindi4nh OP t1_je7swbo wrote
“They really belong to the public. They don’t belong to the governor or to the staff….The people of the state have a right to a complete history… and they have a right to have records preserved.” Thank you Paul. #RighttoKnow