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kitchinsink OP t1_jbf3619 wrote

Ignoring my actual feelings on this, Both the senate and house bills on this are garbage.

Senate Bill: "Parents bill of rights" broad crappy thing, like Florida.

https://gencourt.state.nh.us/bill_Status/billinfo.aspx?id=1079&inflect=2

House Bill: "No, you can't have any kind of gender affirming care except therapy under 18".

https://gencourt.state.nh.us/bill_Status/billinfo.aspx?id=71

How about we leave that to the doctors, counselors, researchers, and not some clowns in Concord, thanks.

Edit: Removing "experts" because some of y'all really wanna get that big authoritarian govt D by letting them legislate things that don't need to be legislated, all because you're big mad you were asked to wear a mask and not be gross.

Yes. There are experts. They study really hard for a really long time and there are plenty of trustworthy experts. Government != Experts.

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Wiked_Pissah t1_jbfehyl wrote

My towns state reps are usually in the bathroom or asleep when it comes time to vote for anything meaningful, like safe drinking water. But this they will likely vote for because they are both bigots with nothing else to do.

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ThatSoloTaco t1_jbh8e9h wrote

Experts like World Professional Association for Transgender Health Standard of Care? Who have been around for about 40 years, and have a standard of care document with cited sources that just got updated last year.

WPATH Standard of Care

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Jam5quares t1_jbfg124 wrote

"we" trusted the experts when they told us there were WMDs in Iraq.

"We" trusted the experts when they told us the lab leak theory was simply racists and unplausible.

"We" trusted the experts when they said masks, lockdowns, and sanitizer worked

"We" trusted the experts wheb they told us they were not collecting data on Americans illegally

Should I go on? The statement "Trust the experts" is absolutely backwards, how about the experts earn out trust. We should be holding experts accountable. More often than not, the "experts" are just corrupt and self promoting, and at the end of the day they are humans and make mistakes, in the best case, and are malicious or corrupt in the worst case.

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kitchinsink OP t1_jbfmi6s wrote

I'm sorry, is this an argument FOR some random people in Concord to make restrictions on healthcare?

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Jam5quares t1_jbfjvj1 wrote

I'm not commenting on the bills, I'm commenting on the obtuse and ignorant suggestion to "Trust the experts".

The government, at this point, is virtually indistinguishable from the institutions...acadamia, media, corporations. They are working hand in hand. The "experts" in this space 100% have big governments blessing, we have state officials who feel otherwise.

If you want my comment on the bills, I don't think the government should have any role in this, however as I just pointed out they most certainly do and these bills are the backlash against it. I am more supportive of the second bill, though I would rather have this topic resolved within the cultural sphere.

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tronhammer t1_jbflehq wrote

The government != experts.

If that was the case, we would live in a technocracy, which we do not. We live in a democratic republic, which means the loudest and most able to spend to popularize themselves become "leaders". Those are not the people "trust the experts" is saying to trust.

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averageduder t1_jbh3ud0 wrote

So why would you assume random politicians know better than trained professionals? Also - I’m guessing you’re young - the experts aren’t the ones who said there were wmds in Iraq. It was the neocons in the bush admin.

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