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Quirky_Butterfly_946 t1_jbo6457 wrote

If children are having an identity crisis, they should be in therapy with a qualified therapist. There is no reason a child should be given drugs or surgery that can cause irreparable changes. Allow children's bodies to develop as they should and when the child reaches adulthood, they can decide how they want to proceed.

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comefromawayfan2022 OP t1_jbo702x wrote

Kids are usually in therapy for years. This law is stupid because it doesn't take into account that you have to be sixteen anyway in order to start hormone therapy so it's not like a "child" is being given drugs or surgery. Because by the time hormone replacement therapy is started, they are already teenagers

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11_Wolfie_11 t1_jbqb0yt wrote

Are they in therapy for years? Sources, please.

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comefromawayfan2022 OP t1_jbqtvkp wrote

You can literally Google gender dysphoria and look it up yourself. The diagnosis process consists of a behavioral health evaluation. To even qualify to START hormone replacement therapy, you need a letter of referral from a qualified licensed mental health provider. In order to get that kind of referral letter, you need to have an established relationship with a mental health provider and be able to prove you've been seeing them regularly for quite some time.

You ask for specific sources. My sources are the trans friends and classmates I have who have had gender affirming care and who have been through the process of transitioning. My friends have spoken at length about the years of therapy they've needed and the therapy they STILL currently get because with being transgender comes an alarmingly high amount of discrimination, stigmatism, depression, anxiety, self-harm, PTSD. My best friend had to see a therapist once a week for four years and THEN the therapist finally agreed to write him a referral letter to a multi-disciplinary gender clinic for hormone replacement therapy.

The first line of treatment is literally counseling and therapy...you can Google the gender clinic at Boston children's hospital and read more about what they offer if you want your own sources

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exhaustedretailwench t1_jbpl1ts wrote

they don't perform the surgery on minors, end of. plus, trans people go thru lots of counseling for years before surgery and throughout hormone therapy. this is a situation that should remain between the child, the parents, and the medical staff.

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valleyman02 t1_jbogvgn wrote

No children are having surgeries. These drugs do not cause irreparable harm. Why are people misrepresenting the facts. To stop a doctor/patient relationship. Trying to block healthcare and mental health care for kids and adults?

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11_Wolfie_11 t1_jbqcdog wrote

Isn’t there also a bill out there now being proposed that parents don’t need to be in the loop on all of this…? And yes, puberty blockers cause irreparable harm. And yes, children in this country as young at least as young twelve have had surgeries done.

Saying someone should be an adult before they do this shit isn’t bigotry. In my personal opinion, being 36, even 18 is way to fucking young to be making these kid of calls about the rest of your life. In the other hand, I get it. If someone will be happier on the other side, don’t rob them of their youth in that role. But…yeah, no.

The core of the issue is influence, not perceived phobias.

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comefromawayfan2022 OP t1_jbqvcrk wrote

There are certain cases where transgender youth SHOULD be able to make these types of decisions without their parents info. It's one thing if a transgender youth has loving and supportive parents then yes that's absolutely a time the parents should be involved. But not all transgender youth have that. Kids get thrown out of the house over these types of things and LGBTQIA youth will take their own lives and attempt to take their own lives because of family discrimination and lack of family support..in those types of situations than absofuckinglutely the parents should have zero say.

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11_Wolfie_11 t1_jbrc4p4 wrote

So…what about all the mislead detransitioners that are left in a no-man’s-land?

And just so I’m clear on what you’re saying:

The parents need to agree with what these outsiders are saying they’re child needs, or they get no say in the matter…right? No.

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scarletuba t1_jbs5o2j wrote

https://www.gendergp.com/detransition-facts/

8 in 100 detransition in any form. 62 in 100 of those did it because of societal pressures and not because they personally wanted to.

So if you have a population of 1000 people who have transitioned in any way, 80 might have fully detransitioned or partially (meaning they might be "switching/etc). Only 30 chose to detransition and didn't claim it was due outside pressure.

Contrast to suicidality

https://www.gendergp.com/what-is-the-transgender-suicide-rate/

50% consider suicide. 20% attempt

So 50 in 100 are in such destress that they want to die.

20 in 100 try to die. Note: not 20% of 50% like the above stat... In a population of 1000 people who have identified as trans, 500 comtemplate suicide. 200 attempt.

Note: data on completed suicide is lacking because of how deaths are reported.

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Newgidoz t1_jbqwmfb wrote

>can cause irreparable changes

Denying puberty blockers causes unwanted irreparable changes to their body

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