Better question: have you ever seen black ice before I mean, I get your point, but as soon as it gets below 32 degrees that rain becomes an invisible sheet of ice that stops your ability to brake

I feel like there are two types of drivers: those that use RainX, and those that don’t.

Iiii wanna know! Have you everrrr seen the rain?

Once you get down to about Virginia, 2 inches of snow shuts down the state.

Ok , but it’s mid 60’s right now. And I agree with the hazards thing, zero reason to drive with them on. And it’s also a illegal in some states.

Oh you’re from the south and you’re a great driver, huh? Puhleeaase. I lived in Virginia Beach for a few years. One winter, there was a cold snap and Virginia Beach got an inch and a half of snow. About 5,000 people immediately drove off the interstate. There were cars in ditches everywhere. The whole place closed down for days so they could bring plows down from DC and clean things up.

Classic. Love it!

When did you move here from the south? Rain is easy mode compared to the black ice, slush and snow we drive in. The people you're complaining about have probably moved up here from the south. 60% of the residents here aren't from NH.

If it’s not sunny and 75, all common sense goes out the window, I’ve found. Fog, snow, rain, mist, hail, heat mirages….you name it. I was born here, and it seems to me the drivers are getting worse and worse.

I’ve lived all over the country and the ONLY place I’ve seen idiots turn hazards on for rain is Texas. The dumb motherfuckers almost stop on I-10 in a drizzle.

and yes,there are a bunch of shitty drivers here.

Wait until the first snow. Stay off rte 16

Yep, have an upvote.

Virginia Beach drivers are nuts on a perfect day. It really caught me off guard.

That's one of the problems with people and the weather out here, I'm from California, and have been in NH for around 15-20 years and EVERY time there is bad weather it seems that the people who have lived here all their lives forget how to appropriately respond to driving in said weather.

Just few weeks ago Yes

Throw a driver from any state/region into any combination of weather/climate, you are going to run into the same thing more often than not. Some drivers are good, and some drivers are shit.

The water allows us to drive closer to our natural state, but we are nervous. In a few months. Maybe even weeks the hard water will develope. The braps will resume upon the lakes and ponds as the tracked 2 stroke vehicles of the gods return. We yearn for the unnessicary speed a 600cc sled can deliver. Gods forbid us to mention a turbo 1200 and its neccisary connecting rod shattering abilities. We are nervous this false black ice will not provide the performance results to deliver us to the great feast. So we drive both aggressively and timidly for fear the gods will be angered and not deliver the white fluffy stuff that provides great succor when the sun stays low. Do not bring the curse of the Florida Man and his balmy winters.

They’re just as bad in Florida lmao

Where did you get the idea that people in New Hampshire are good in the snow? I will say I saw snow in South Carolina once and that was the worst ever.

I'd rather see them. It would make me think maybe they are having car trouble or whatever, and I would just pass them.

Born and raised here and I believe no one in this state seems to know how to merge properly anywhere. It's a zipper people.

My favorite are the soccer moms in the minivans, obviously late for something, and too distracted or not caring that she's 5 effing cars back speeding up to "merge" in front of car number 1. I'd imagine she's yelling, "Shut the hell up, Cody or I'll come back there and shut you up! Brianna, if you don't shut your music off right now, no SOCCER this year! Look at this effing jerk in Car number 1. Hey, hey, f u! Learn how to merge!"

I read that like beat poetry.

Well done. Perform that at beat night at some bar...

They face a REAL different reality. After a few dry months, the first rains, especially if they're light, flush oil out of the pavement and turn the roads into skating rinks.

We have all season radials tires. All they ever drive are summer tires, so they might as well be slicks on oily roads.

They aren't dumb. They're scared shitless.

I've only driven with hazards once and it was during a microburst where I couldn't see any cars in front of me even though they had their hazards on too.

Drive in MD, they have no clue about the zipper or how to merge. NONE

Delaware goes full helpless in the snow.

Preach brother, preach.

Florida it would happen all the time.

Just wait til the first dusting of snow. Each year you’ll see people parking in ditches during the first snowfall. Often it’s overconfident 4x4s and people who forgot to replace their balding tires.

I regret deeply I can only like this once.

Probably a lot due to summer tires and the fact southern snow is almost always the mixed stuff that quickly makes ice. No salt or sand on the roads ever either! You guys always forget southern states have no prep or infrastructure for snow. As a Texan I can drive just fine in the snow up here. I wouldn't do it back home though, it's completely different.

The south gets black ice frequently enough in the winter, fyi. I'm sure he's probably seen it.

I am honestly shocked that more people don't use Rainx. Using it should be mandatory at this point.

Magnificent.

Ah yes, the annual meeting of the summer tire club

>if it rains hard and you have trouble seeing you do not need to turn on your hazard lights unless something is wrong

If I'm on the highway, I turn on my hazards in a torrential downpour to alert other drivers of a potential road hazard: ME. I want them to know that I can't see past my car's nose, I'm driving 30 in a 65, and I can't see them, either.

I’m no disagreeing with a majority of your points. It rains plenty once you’re east of SA and especially Houston, so the oil on roads is not really a factor.

Hydroplaning.

My favorite time of year was whenever it snowed along the coast of NC, and everyone decided it was cool to slide off the road for some reason.

Or whenever it would rain hard in CA... Now that's a spectacular viewing experience.

Nothing beats ice in Texas, though. Literally the entire state shuts down in reverence.

Has the south ever seen snow before? Every time it snows more than 2 inches we get stories of highways backed up for miles and people snowed in their cars.

Transplant from the west coast, this one of the weird thing things being here. Best drivers in the snow you’ll see absolutely worst drivers drivers in the rain though.

whats your point? people in the south drive this way…people up here dont? i love stream of consciousness, i just dont understand. i have thoughts too

I moved from NH to SC. Sorry but drivers in SC do not know how to drive or they just don’t care. No police presence equals drivers speeding, staying in the left lane etc. Not to mention no inspection means cars with no hoods or hoods being held down with tie downs, broken windshields, no bumpers due to crashes, no lights or broken lights. They drive the same no matter if the roads are dry, wet or snowy. SC drivers are the worst. Even worse than MA drivers! Just my observation

Omg 😂

YES omg I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen people flip out and get pushed off the road cuz they don’t know how to merge with a zipper 😂

Here and back home lmao

Few weeks ago. Noticed many of the bad driver plates were Massachusetts too so maybe that says something lol

Okay but it snows once a year there and it rains pretty frequently here lol

Omg rain in California rip

We see it once a year, y’all get rain on the weekly there’s no excuse 😂😂

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I’m from NC so that’s pretty valid 😂

People suck at driving everywhere. And if you have your lights off in the rain or any weather, your IQ is in the toilet as far as.im concerned. Also- parking lights are for PARKING, not driving.

I moved here from maine over a year ago, and the way people drive in nh is much different. I would say more wreckless, less courteous, and just overall very risky driving habits. But hey live free or die am I right?? I feel like I hear about gnarly accidents at least once a week. I dunno if it’s just being closer to mass, and people are rushing around more?? But from my perspective nh generally has pretty shitty drivers.

I drove to Portland the other weekend and I found Maine drivers to be very pleasant :)

I will say that last night's peak was among the heaviest rains I've seen since I moved to the Manchester area, and the worst (non-winter) driving conditions I've encountered here -- basically a white out.

> Also pro-tip if it rains hard and you have trouble seeing you do not need to turn on your hazard lights unless something is wrong

Unlike many states, it is allowed, but not encouraged.

😂

If someone is driving slow on the highway in heavy rain, my guess might be that he can't see. Maybe his wipers are junk, defrost doesn't work etc.

I'm not buying the theory that people are afraid to accelerate in rain.

Eh. That’s anecdotal, as is pretty much all of the discourse on this thread.

I find that Mainers often take turns/corners more painfully slowly than any other drivers I have ever encountered, then there are others who speed pretty aggressively, but they also are often perfectly normal drivers… just like you might encounter in any state, including here!

I drove to Saco, Maine last night on windy back roads in pissing rain. Normal driving in both ME & NH by both yours truly and the other drivers… with the exception of one driver who came up behind me fast & probably didn’t like that I was slowing down on curves (just in this one meandering hilly section I’m unfamiliar with). I pulled over. Problem solved for both of us.

I do have one hypothesis that fits your opinion though: New England is FULL of old people. They can drive just fine in the snow as they’ve been doing it their whole life, but can’t see shit at night in the rain. (I’m not that old but am blind as a bat and use contacts… glare at night for me while driving is awful & precipitation makes it way worse.)

Honestly you might be right about the old people, it makes sense.

One thing I’ve noticed that’s similar in the south is that the Ford F-150 drivers are assholes here too lol

Last night was actually a lot of rain, even for me. I drove 60 on I-95 instead of 70 because I felt so nervous 😉

It could also be a vision problem like not having glasses available or other eye issues

Can't see, or tires aren't great.

I'll find the occasional complete turtle in ME, but for the most part I've never noticed really bad or needlessly aggressive drivers there.

NH on the other hand, I probably see more ridiculous road-rage types than anywhere I've lived, including NJ.

I keep an eye on lakes and reservoirs and they are at high levels. It feels like this is the rainiest year in decades. That said, I go with Michelin Touring tires and change them when my dealer says to change them (they have a thing you drive over and it tells you the condition of your tires).

We have a lot of new drivers in NH from young adults and those moving into the state from other places. The roads were a lot different 35 years ago when we moved here. Southern NH seems like an extension of Massachusetts as we now have the driving styles that were there 35 years ago.

That can be a big problem given that we're the second-oldest state in the country (based on median age). I keep a spare pair of bifocals in my cars in case I forget my glasses. But I can easily understand forgetting to wear them. If you can't pass the eye-test part of getting your license renewed, then you are required to wear glasses while driving. I don't know what the penalty is for not wearing required glasses though.

I have a pair of night driving glasses. I started having problems driving in the dark about 20 years ago so I told my optician and he said that the pupils expand when it's dark to let in more light and that this changes the geometry of how corrective lenses work. So he made me glasses with about a quarter less power.

Thank you, that is really helpful and sounds exactly like what I need to do.

I've got family in Dallas and they report seeing cars driving down the road spinning off for no obvious reason other than a light spritzing...

Not living there, it's all I have to go on...