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RisksRewardsRelics t1_j1ueocy wrote

Reply to comment by RandomRandomPenguin in Failed meme but NH placement is precious by WoobieBee

Massachusetts is the most liberal state, I’ll give you that, but…

Liberalism ≠ Leftism

Republicans have shaped policy in Mass more than anyone seems to want to admit.

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travelinlighttoparad t1_j1x4vn2 wrote

No it hasn't. You a repeating an old trope from the looney left. They are just as dumb as the MAGATS.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massachusetts_health_care_reform#Changes_to_the_law

On April 12, 2006, Governor Romney signed the health legislation.[23] He vetoed eight sections of the health care legislation, including the controversial employer assessment.[24] He vetoed provisions providing dental benefits to poor residents on the Medicaid program, and providing health coverage to legal immigrants who have a U.S. sponsor who is financially responsible for them.[25] The legislature promptly overrode six of the eight gubernatorial section vetoes, on May 4, 2006, and by mid-June 2006 had overridden the remaining two.[26][27]

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RandomRandomPenguin t1_j1y7r6l wrote

So is your position that there are no such thing as a left politician in the US?

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ShamanicYogi t1_j1ybr4v wrote

Ask any European what they think of American left wing politics and they’ll laugh at you.

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RandomRandomPenguin t1_j1yfd7h wrote

Sure but no one is talking about Europe. The idea that the Democratic Party in MA is anything like a centrist democrat in America makes no sense

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ShamanicYogi t1_j27jetm wrote

The point is that most European countries have a left-wing. The US does not. The Dems are center-right… center at best. The DNC has put a strong effort into shutting out the more progressive members of their party in the interest of the status quo.

In recent decades, the closest thing we’ve had to genuine left-wing American politicians at the federal level is Bernie Sanders and Tulsi Gabbard, and they’re not even that far left. Both are registered independent, not Democrat.

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RisksRewardsRelics t1_j1ya2y4 wrote

Leftist politicians certainly exist in the US, but they are most definitely not a part of mainstream American politics. That’s not my position, that is a fact.

“Although left-wing politics came to the United States in the 19th century, there are no major left-wing political parties in the United States.”

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RandomRandomPenguin t1_j1yaogm wrote

Doesn’t this idea assume there is some static scale? I don’t think that’s true at all

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