Vivid-Construction93 t1_j34saft wrote
Reply to comment by 11_Wolfie_11 in Police shot Gilford teen allegedly armed with a knife within two minutes of arriving, call logs show by SweetFeetLivingston
Id argue the knife statement a bit but thats not what id say is the root of the discussion. Things im curious about is the previous mental health calls that came out in the news and what was the cause/outcome and the toxicology report just for the small chance this teenager was under the influence of a substances capable of allowing him to push through a taser
Vivid-Construction93 t1_j34skr7 wrote
Ill also add im not exactly pro cop but i will absolutely admit its an extremely stressful and nuanced job that often in the public eye has no right answers
11_Wolfie_11 t1_j34uxoo wrote
I think if the cops are called, and some kids running around with a knife, there’s definitely drugs involved.
My only problem with nuance being gifted to law enforcement, is that nuance is not gifted to law breakers in reciprocation.
As for the knife thing, grappling with someone who has a weapon isn’t a whole lot different from grappling with someone who doesn’t. If you’re close to the person and have an underhook on the armed arm, there’s not a lot of leverage for them to kill you with. Definitely hurt you, but then again, there’s a bunch of other guys around you to help out…or how about this: PCP may be able to beat a taser, but not the physics of non-lethal projectile weapons, which exist.
Vivid-Construction93 t1_j34zvqp wrote
Ehhh i understand that to a degree on the lawbreakers end but i think i mostly understand your sentiment. As far as the knife id say that also very much depends on the knife and your argument involving a bordering required circumstance of getting the underhook theres not much stopping you from catching a blade to the throat or another vital area
11_Wolfie_11 t1_j352hyz wrote
True, especially if the person is very tall. But still, rubber bullets. For fucks sake, they knew where they were going, and for what purpose. If someone were to tell me that there’s not a gas that’s been devolved that they could just launch in the window and go fetch him up, I would be flabbergasted.
notchrisgoldecker t1_j4t6g4j wrote
There were no drugs involved. I know this for a fact.
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