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VividFossil t1_istsx9l wrote

I don’t object to this.

I can’t accept places like Asbury Park and Long Branch as central jersey. They’re not south jersey either. I’m okay w a shore area.

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ansky201 t1_istuews wrote

Why do New Jerseyans obsess over this? I used to live in CT which is geographically about the same size as NJ and people there are not arguing over geographic regions.

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ianisms10 t1_isturpc wrote

I've always considered the Shore to be separate from the rest of Central/South Jersey

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sonofmalachy t1_istzift wrote

This issue with this is that half the shore isn't apart of the the "shore area". When people think of the shore a lot people think Wildwood, Avalon, Cape May.. yet they aren't in the shore areas.

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theonetruefishboy t1_isu0ppn wrote

New Jersey actually has six areas. North, Central, South, Shore, New York City, and Philadelphia.

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56paint t1_isu0q0r wrote

I agree with this map except add coastal Atlantic and Cape May County to the Shore region. Not the whole county just the shore regions. Unless you have the Central Shore and Southern Shore areas

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lalalele99 t1_isu1cet wrote

Honestly I feel like that’s the most accurate map I’ve seen yet. Maybe move the Central-South line a bit more North but other than that I think it encapsulates the regions pretty well

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yourlicorceismine t1_isu2mi3 wrote

I don't disagree with this either. The only question I've got is what happens if someone mentions Sandy Hook or Highlands. Would you consider that "the shore"? I never really thought about it but I guess my answer would be no. Belmar? Wildwood? Monmouth Beach? Absolutely.

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My_user_name_1 t1_isu36sj wrote

This actually looks similar too what the state police have, where Cherry Hill is in the central region.

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notjustdrums t1_isu8rcc wrote

I agree with this. If you live in Ocean Grove, you're not goin around tellin ppl u live in "Central Jersey."

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NYRangers42 t1_isu9lde wrote

Love this map. Shore region should be every part of the coast that maintains a solid full time population (so basically everything not on a barrier island, i.e. Sandy Hook to Bay Head). Bay Head is the border of Shore and South. Also makes sense because the Coast Line ends in Bay Head, which has direct NYC service.

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BobbyG-68 t1_isu9yvz wrote

Perfect! That’s New Jersey and it’s subdivisions!

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notjustdrums t1_isu9zhp wrote

Replying to sonofmalachy (#134,709)

I disagree with this. In terms of cultural significance, the "central jersey" part of the shore is what ppl think of when they think of the "shore." Look up any stock photography of the "Jersey Shore," and most of the imagery is of the Ferris wheel @ Seaside Heights. The Jersey Shore reality show, unfortunately, had more impact than we'd all like. Cape May and all that is its own thing.

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Shadow_of_Yor t1_isublo0 wrote

Are state is so small. Why is this such a big deal how people divide it

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readuponthat24 t1_isuc3vl wrote

meh, I don't think beach towns differ enough from their neighbors to the west enough to require a seperate distinction.

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Starboard44 t1_isueiih wrote

This is 100% accurate and how I've always viewed the state.

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DRdidgelikefridge t1_isugwh0 wrote

Craigslist agrees.

Somehow northern Monmouth gets screwed either way

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Zanguez t1_isuiuap wrote

I recognize the shore more than central

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billyhicks t1_isukl37 wrote

yeah to be honest i have absolutely no problem like this, the entire shore coast SHOULD be it's own territory. it's precisely why thousands of people flock there each summer after memorial day and stay until labor day. it's one of the best kept secrets about new jersey, let them keep calling us an armpit or wtf ever.

i've grown up in Freehold my entire life a stone's throw away from anything and everything and outside of maybe retired in Hawaii I don't think i'd rather be anywhere else in the world.

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FartPudding t1_isukpl2 wrote

The shore is all down NJ, why is it stopping so far north

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G_Rel7 t1_isulymh wrote

Replying to notjustdrums (#135,391)

There needs to be a Southern Shore region then because I agree with previous comment. A lot of people think of that AC to Cape May area when they say the “shore”.

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Ghost-Of-Roger-Ailes t1_isuqfpb wrote

NJ would probably be better done divided into seven sections: northeast, northwest, east-central, west-central, southeast, southwest, and shore, all are prety distinct

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Carittz t1_isuqj3u wrote

Honestly I think the shore is a more distinct region than central jersey.

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wbradford00 t1_isurewh wrote

The question being asked here is "is the jersey shore distinct enough from the other regions enough to carve itself out?". I'm not sure, honestly. This map specifically does not do a very good job at delineating the regions, as half of the shore area of NJ is not included in the pic

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mcgeggy t1_isutdic wrote

Looks like half my house is in central Jersey, and half is in the shore region… Cool!

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Nj6788 t1_isuw06x wrote

We who live here call it THE BEACH

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bigpRick88 t1_isuwajv wrote

Somebody has been listening to too much bill spadea

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hippityhoppflop t1_isuxq8y wrote

Monmouth county is definitely central, even the shore areas

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Sudovoodoo80 t1_isuyqh4 wrote

Atlantic City is apparently not at the shore. Weird cause I'm pretty sure I saw the ocean last time I was there. Guess it was just a big lake?

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calcaneus t1_isv09um wrote

How is more than half the coast not the shore? Or, what moron drew those lines?

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Hannibam86 t1_isv1wal wrote

I would argue you can break NJ up into: North, Central, South, Shore, Pine Barrens, Skylands, Delaware Bay.

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Tooch10 t1_isv2b5d wrote

Replying to notjustdrums (#135,391)

> Cape May and all that is its own thing.

We once took a Physick Estate tour, our guide was an old lady. As far as she was concerned Cape May was the center of the world, Wildwood was North Jersey, and NYC was outer space

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Flitterquest t1_isv3sjc wrote

Wait wait wait Atlantic city is absolutely on the shore who wrote this thing

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BluebirdNo9328 t1_isv48d0 wrote

Agreed, but draw the line all the way down to include AC and Cape May.

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pixlbabble t1_isv8gt9 wrote

The shore is the shore. You still either go north central or south. facepalm

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Individual-1130 t1_isvkc6f wrote

As a Monmouth county resident, I feel like the belle of the ball here.

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HeYImanGie1314 t1_isvl62t wrote

I was jus talking to someone about this. He asked what part jersey am I from and I said the part that doesn’t exist. I told home central jersey but I guess now ima jus say jersey shore

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cladtidings t1_isvlan0 wrote

There are more like six. Northwest Jersey isn't much like Northeast Jersey, and the Delaware Bay part of NJ isn't like the rest of South Jersey, either.

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almas20758 t1_isvnay3 wrote

I live at the Jersey Shore, eastern Monmouth County and I agree, the Shore is it's own separate region. For example, just look at any weather map for frost tonight - all the same except at the Shore

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tex8222 t1_isvnox1 wrote

I’m OK with this concept -

Here is my ‘Shore’ definition: ‘All areas east of the Garden State Parkway from the Driscoll Bridge to Cape May.’

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ColdYellowGatorade t1_isvnwmt wrote

There’s also the Route 9 express which is where most of Brooklyn/Staten Island migrates to.

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Yelwah t1_isvoa66 wrote

Anything above and above like LBI Is North Jersey/ NY jersey shore, and LBI & below is South Jersey/ Philly shore

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KidKrinkles t1_isvr9ym wrote

I've said this forever, having grown up in Seaside. But I've kind of considered the "Shore" more of a modifier: you could be a South Jersey Shore person, or a Central Jersey shore person.

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Sdmws6 t1_isvsll1 wrote

LOL no way southern Warren county is considered Central Jersey. Nice try.

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327609Where-Am-I-now t1_isvuuxl wrote

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troy_theboy t1_isvvxqb wrote

I have ALWAYS said this. They stole my idea! Damn lol

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LoveCrafter666 t1_isw15zk wrote

As someone who grew up in Central but has lived in the Shore area for the past 2 years I completely agree with this

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TheFuzziestDumpling t1_isw1xyt wrote

Best North/Central/South boundaries I've seen, I'm just not a fan of the shore being its own thing. It's literally an orthogonal axis. You've got the shore in central Jersey and the shore in south Jersey.

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fishingwithmk t1_isw4cu1 wrote

There never was a site. It was always south jersey

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RonniBoi t1_isw4xxi wrote

Weird bootleg vacation land

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ShoreMama t1_isw5p89 wrote

I’m on board with this one.

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Dang3rCl0se t1_isw5zq6 wrote

There are only 2 regions in New Jersey that matter... The Taylor Ham area and the Pork Roll area.

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Hij802 t1_isw6k0q wrote

TL/DR below

As someone from “Central” (in this map) Monmouth, I partially agree but have a major critique. The Shore shouldn’t stop in Ocean County, it needs to go all the way down to Cape May. However, I also feel that there’s a North Shore and South Shore.

This article shows the percentage of people who actually live in NJ who live there year-round. In Monmouth County, out of the 15 shore towns, 13 have over 80% year round residents, 11 over 85%, and 5 over 90%. Deal is the only one with less than 50%, being at 39%. These towns all essentially feel like Central NJ to me, but still generally have a distinct shore town feeling to them.Ocean County has only 5/12 over 80%, and all of them are north of LBI, ending in Seaside Park. The lowest is Beach Haven at 67%.

I believe this is where the distinction truly begins. Island Beach State Park is where things become more summer-only touristy. Once you get to Atlantic & Cape May, the further south you go the less people actually live there. In Atlantic, the highest is Atlantic City at 74%. 2 towns are below 50%. Then you get it Cape May, where only 2/9 towns have over 50%, the lowest being Avalon at only 28%. And mind you these are only based on ownership of housing by in-state residents, meaning that these numbers don’t necessarily reflect the actual amount of people who live there.

TL/DR: Based on this, I would argue that there’s a

North Shore - Monmouth east of the Route 35, Ocean east of the Garden State Parkway minus Island Beach State Park (even if it’s connected)

South Shore - IBSP + Atlantic (only the 5 towns on the Ocean) + all of Cape May.

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Hij802 t1_isw8rq9 wrote

Replying to Hij802 (#139,428)

TL/DR below

As someone from “Central” (in this map) Monmouth, I partially agree but have two major critiques. The Shore should be extended down to Cape May but split into North Shore/South Shore.

First:

This article shows the percentage of people who actually live in NJ who live there year-round. In Monmouth County, out of the 15 shore towns, 13 have over 80% year round residents, 11 over 85%, and 5 over 90%. Deal is the only one with less than 50%, being at 39%. These towns all essentially feel like Central NJ to me, feeling alive year-round and being highly connected to the rest of Monmouth but still generally have a distinct shore town feeling to them. I would go to Long Branch or Asbury Park any time of year. Ocean County has only 5/12 shore towns over 80%, and all of them are north of LBI, ending in Seaside Park. The lowest is Beach Haven at 67%.

I believe this is where the distinction truly begins. Island Beach State Park is where things become more summer-only touristy. Once you get to Atlantic & Cape May, the further south you go the less people actually live there. In Atlantic, the highest is Atlantic City at 74%. 2 towns are below 50%. Then you get it Cape May, where only 2/9 shore towns have over 50%, the lowest being Avalon at only 28%. The only town I would ever really consider going to outside the summer is Atlantic City, and maybe if there’s a famous restaurant that’s open year-round in say Wildwood or Cape May, but solely for that reason. These towns don’t really feel connected to anything else in their counties or in South Jersey. Hell 30 minutes outside AC you’re in the Pine Barrens.

Second:

As someone from Central Monmouth, I feel no relation to Camden or anything over there whatsoever. South Jersey is more influenced by the Philadelphia metro, while Central Jersey is generally more influenced by New York and Trenton. The line for Central Jersey needs to be moved up a lot higher. I’d argue Burlington is almost entirely South, and Ocean is Central but is South Jersey below Toms River.

TL/DR: Based on this, I would argue that there’s a

North Shore - Monmouth east of the Route 35, Ocean east of the Garden State Parkway minus Island Beach State Park (even if it’s connected)

South Shore - IBSP + Atlantic (only the 5 towns on the Ocean) + all of Cape May.

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Zujcl1456 t1_iswh5ji wrote

Now the shore wants to separate it self.. what changed y’all-

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peepeeepo t1_isx0lvz wrote

It’s only north and south. If you an eagles fan, you from south Jersey, period.

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WystanH t1_isxa7y4 wrote

Wildwood / Cape May wants a word.

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avarciousRutabega99 t1_isxq7yd wrote

Acthually theres 11. 3 of them terminate in my basement. The other 8 are scattered throughout quick check bathrooms in sussex county.

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ahealingartist t1_isxqkpg wrote

I’m originally from North Jersey. I moved to Atlantic City four years ago, as I always dreamed of living at “The Shore”. When people ask me where I live, the first thing I say is: “I live at the shore” as I sit at my desk working while looking at the beautiful Atlantic Ocean and the beach. Then, I mention “Atlantic City”. But, THE SHORE is my first understanding of where I live. Sometimes, I say I live on Absecon Island when I remember that this indeed is an island. It’s like a much, much, much smaller island than Manhattan but still has an urban vibe with all the restaurants, music concerts and venues (did you country music fans make it to that awesome 3 day festival on the beach this summer?), and of course the casinos (I mainly visit them when family and friends are staying at them). I appreciate all the various Shore area variety in NJ. NJ is the BEST STATE! We have it all with minimal climate catastrophes.

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Affectionate-Roof615 t1_it3c543 wrote

It really depends what specific towns are covered in the area. Toms River I would not consider “shore” although Lavallette for example is part of Toms River and is definitely shore. Also, why doesn’t the shore go all the way to Cape May? That is definitely shore territory.

Different people draw different maps of what they consider different areas to be. I never went further south than Island Beach State Park until I was in my 20’s (and still never been to Wildwood). So for me the shore map looks perfect, but I know it’s not all inclusive.

rant ends here

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