Antique-Scholar-5788 t1_jdnjg5p wrote
Reply to comment by tandemxylophone in Another attack on an American base in Syria Friday after US retaliatory airstrikes on Iranian-backed groups by notunek
Yes, Americans fighting ISIS is the same as Russians committing genocide against Ukrainians.
Tankie logic.
tandemxylophone t1_jdocl8u wrote
The US isn't in Syria to fight ISIS. That's what the media says because its what the Western people care about (ISIS wouldn't have risen if the West back troops haven't supported the opposition into a civil war). They are there to fight a proxy war to get military alliance within the region. The US wants to get rid of the Pro-Assad, Pro-Russia team at all costs, even though they know their strategy to win will also end up in genocide of the Alawites.
Pretty much the war strategy of destabilisation absolves responsibility of any consequences that come from doing that, including the rise of ISIS. It absolved them from Iraq, Afghanistan, Guatemala, Haiti, Vietnam, Cuba, Venesuela, and El Salvador. So why is this any different?
And I'm not saying Russia is better, but that the a lot of people here don't understand the crimes committed by the US can be similarly abhorrent. Noam Chomsky also described that Sanctions are not ethical (due to the damage it does to civilians), but mostly used as a power play of the strong. The "International law" is not run on ethics, but the justice of the alliance who has the most power.
Right now a lot of people agree with the "law" because its an agreeable ally. Nobody will recognise a war crime the West has done until Russia, Iran, or China will do the exact same thing.
My point is, so many people here still has a notion of ethics and absolute justice in the US's motives and actions. They speak the legality instead of the power dynamics. I'm just suspicious of someone who believes in absolute justice for wars.
howie117 t1_jeamma9 wrote
Who said anything about ISIS? Why dont you tell that to the 1 million dead civilians killed by americans in the middle east. Why not critisize both russia and america for being genocidal terrorist war mongers?
Antique-Scholar-5788 t1_jechjz8 wrote
Source: trust me bro
howie117 t1_jed7fi8 wrote
"The U.S. post-9/11 wars have forcibly displaced at least 38 million people. At least 929,000 people have been killed by direct war violence in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Yemen, and Pakistan."
- Watson Institute, Brown University
Antique-Scholar-5788 t1_jee1qfx wrote
Solid example of manipulating data for propaganda purposes.
Those numbers include such data as civilian deaths in the Syrian Civil War and US citizen/military death.
The US Middle East wars were obviously a mistake, but the US military didn’t target civilians. Equating that to what Russia is doing (or China by the CCP), and using whataboutism to justify it, is despicable.
howie117 t1_jefaq4b wrote
> Solid example of manipulating data for propaganda purposes.
lol, you mean from the US based Watson Institute and Brown University?
Why is one war worse than the other? Iraq/Afghanistan war even has more casualties. The whole world knows that both Russia and USA are warmongering terrorist nations. Why not condemn both for the wars and mass death? Or is it all about american exceptionalism? Every other nation in the world sees through the clear hypocrisy of americans.
Antique-Scholar-5788 t1_jefb6xj wrote
Nah, I mean claiming that US troops killed 1 million people, and then citing a source that definitely does not say that.
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