Submitted by andrewjm222 t3_y2w5g7 in news
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Mauiie t1_is577tu wrote
Edgelord strikes early. Now onto the next negative comment while contributing nothing to society.
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CecilTheGod t1_is58nph wrote
Lol as if comments even show up on reddit anymore
Chippopotanuse t1_is59js5 wrote
From another article:
> Two Bristol police officers were killed and one was seriously injured after responding to a domestic violence call late Wednesday night, officials said.
Domestic abuse is one of the best predictors of future gun violence.
And about half of all mass-shootings start with a DV incident (usually with the shooter killing a family member).
It’s why we have a long-standing federal law against domestic abusers owning or possessing firearms. And it is not enforced nearly enough…way too many folks with DV records still have guns.
We need to take domestic abuse and violence FAR more seriously than we do.
fight_your_friends t1_is5a2qr wrote
It's a genuine observation. Wild that three cops get shot and the reaction is to stage all the cops outside a hospital.
fight_your_friends t1_is5a87w wrote
>We need to take domestic abuse and violence FAR more seriously than we do.
If we did that, 40% of cops wouldn't be able to carry weapons.
tetoffens t1_is5a8j7 wrote
I've only lived in big cities but there are always cops at the hospitals where I'm from. Hospitals are breeding grounds of crazy behavior or where people who just did something crazy wind up.
fight_your_friends t1_is5abr0 wrote
I'm not talking about a couple, read the article.
tetoffens t1_is5albw wrote
I'm curious, do you think every officer is on duty at the same time? I think you're seeing that they're in uniform and thought they were working a shift. They're in uniform to pay respect to their colleagues.
mostlyfecalmatter t1_is5apgt wrote
And good husbands should get coupons for range time.
fight_your_friends t1_is5avet wrote
In my experience, they don't ride out in government vehicles with lights on while off-duty. At least you went back to skim the article a bit this time.
WhenTheDevilCome t1_is5aybv wrote
Sure... but without referring to the size of the town, how would that number be unusual? Quick check suggests one hundred patrol officers for a city of sixty thousand people.
Yonand331 t1_is5byed wrote
LMAO, sad it's true though
rivereverafter t1_is5ci3b wrote
I’d take it a step or twelve further and say nobody should have to pay for range time. Bullets are already too expensive.
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andrewjm222 OP t1_is5e7dq wrote
I get what your saying but I can’t imagine what’s going through their heads. I know that the surrounding towns took over patrols and dispatch for the night and into today so I’m sure they wanted to be their for the families
euroman12003 t1_is5fhh0 wrote
That’s not one department, that’s 6 other police departments and probably a dozen troopers and major crimes, but I see you want to be a stickler for this bs. Go ahead.
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NotRoryWilliams t1_is5hjow wrote
Leaving aside the interesting notion that all cops carrying guns is a uniquely American practice, I’m not sure that having 40% fewer armed cops would be a problem. Replace them with social workers.
NotRoryWilliams t1_is5i37s wrote
Okay, but think about this rationally instead of emotionally. What is the basis for this perceived need for heightened security? This wasn’t a comic book villain hunting down cops out of some weird vendetta, it was an armed suspect with nothing to lose trying to escape justice. Why would that indicate a broad threat to the hospitalized cops in particular, or cops in general? This seems like a bunch of armed individuals being “on edge” and reacting disproportionately, increasing, not decreasing, the odds that someone else is hurt or killed. Not to mention this triggers my own pet issue, cops working extra overtime and therefore being armed and driving cars while sleep deprived.
No___ImRight t1_is5j3yz wrote
It's actually not...a sociology professor went hunting for the old 40% myth and found out it's actually 28% (which is still really really bad)
https://sites.temple.edu/klugman/2020/07/20/do-40-of-police-families-experience-domestic-violence/
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NotRoryWilliams t1_is5jjun wrote
That doesn’t make it any less a gathering of sleep-deprived armed men in an emotionally compromised state.
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bdy435 t1_is5mcwq wrote
He's dead
Palsable_Celery t1_is5mlh0 wrote
Regulation without enforcement is just a recommendation.
tryingtodefendhim t1_is5n4g9 wrote
Welcome to USA. You won’t be able to afford to see a doctor, but enjoy a complimentary gun range right over here please.
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rivereverafter t1_is5nr2c wrote
I mean if we stop committing crimes against humanity in the Middle East we could afford to do both
edeolivita t1_is5ns5p wrote
>Leaving aside the interesting notion that all cops carrying guns is a uniquely American practice
The US isn't the only country where all cops carry guns, do you know that? America isn't an exception.
tryingtodefendhim t1_is5nv2v wrote
Well we stopped… nothing has changed yet tho
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rivereverafter t1_is5oi7p wrote
Afghanistan is not the only middle eastern country we were committing crimes against humanity in. We haven’t stopped we’re just not officially at war anymore
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tryingtodefendhim t1_is5piq3 wrote
Who are we booming in the Middle East right now?
Yonand331 t1_is5u9l9 wrote
It's still not a total myth, that's damn near 30.
No___ImRight t1_is5vtsc wrote
The 40% was just a myth not backed up by proper science.
The 28% is factually accurate and again...really really bad. For comparison though, 23% of all women report being the victim of domestic violence.
https://www.ctcadv.org/information-about-domestic-violence/national-statistics/
40% is not "true" in any way and the reality is that it's much closer to the general population, but still higher.
D_J_D_K t1_is5y81g wrote
I hate cops, but unarmed social workers aren't gonna be able to stop a domestic violence situation in process. This is one of the times I actually agree cops need more training to be able to handle these situations
rivereverafter t1_is5yogc wrote
Mainly Iraq and Syria but also Yemen and occasionally Afghanistan. According to this article Biden is implementing stricter rules on the drone strike program (at least outside of Iraq and Syria) which is good, but civilian casualties are still inevitable
RandoCreepsauce t1_is62f62 wrote
People sure do hate and distrust the police these days.
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Pickle_Slinger t1_is6940a wrote
If 3 of your friends/coworkers had just been shot and two were dead, you wouldn’t go to the hospital? Not sure why that’s so hard to understand
bluehealer8 t1_is6a96t wrote
Before anyone goes ANTIFA you should know his Facebook page is full of American flags and guns. Yeah.
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YOGURT___ihateyogurt t1_is6sai5 wrote
Updated on local WTNH states that the 911 domestic call was just a method to lure cops
https://www.wtnh.com/news/connecticut/hartford/3-officers-shot-in-bristol-csp/
sotpmoke t1_is6tjrq wrote
French, Spanish, and Italian Cops all carry. Mexican police and Brazilian police do as well.
yodamiles t1_is6w4uq wrote
This is Reddit. Significant chunk of users here have yet to leave their basement even before Covid. To them, anything that seems bad is an American only phenomenon.
I grew up in thailand and every police officer carries firearms.
whubbard t1_is6wj60 wrote
Wonder why all gun owners say to take a stab at enforcing current laws, before adding more that only the law abiding follow...
Look into how many people illegal try to buy a gun, lying on federal forms, and the government does nada.
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Chippopotanuse t1_is6xk1w wrote
Oh wow. So they just wanted to kill cops? What the fuck?
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STR4NGE t1_is75y4u wrote
Look at this tough guy leaving his basement.
bigcanada813 t1_is7ii54 wrote
I'm all for that, but what do you do when someone doesn't want to deescalate? Domestic calls will always be dangerous, and there will be times that the only form of deescalation possible is with violence of action.
walkandtalkk t1_is7kr0m wrote
I'm pretty impressed that you managed to get in a smug dig at police in a story about two police officers getting murdered trying to stop a domestic violence incident.
SnooMemesjellies7469 t1_is7m8mv wrote
Would the police get rid of theirs?
If not, why not?
Sherbert_Correct t1_is7mdxa wrote
More like 95 percent
ToniBroos t1_is7qbzx wrote
Ideally they'd would have nightsticks and fists.
Unable_Economics_377 t1_is7qi9p wrote
Last I looked at the Police organizations websites about surveys concerning gun control, it was 75-80% against any gun control. Are those police crazy? Why arm the other side? Its often domestic violence that goes bad with legal guns bought. And police walk into those situations every day. Crazy.
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Inspector-KittyPaws t1_is7xjew wrote
Bold to assume this person has friends or a job.
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undercooked1234 t1_is8go0m wrote
These days? I think a lot of communities have hated/distrusted them forever.
undercooked1234 t1_is8gwvi wrote
Lol, anti-facist action? I hope people do that everyday.
undercooked1234 t1_is8h2i0 wrote
2/3 are dead, the remaining 1/3 was the reference.
undercooked1234 t1_is8h8sx wrote
Bolder to assume they dont.
Clifford996 t1_is9if99 wrote
While I agree, it said the domestic disturbance was an altercation with the shooters brother after being kicked out of a bar. I’m all for taking guns away from convicted domestic abusers, but a drunk scuffle with your brother isn’t the standard I want set.
Shot-Canary8954 t1_is9lv4m wrote
I am a local and watched the dozen-plus cars speed to this apartment around 10:30pm. It was crazy.
hannibal_fett t1_is9rycv wrote
An inspiration to us all
Chippopotanuse t1_is9u1uh wrote
Yeah, I missed those details when I first made that comment. Someone else pointed out that the 911 call may have been a ploy to lure cops.
So I agree - this isn’t the usual DV scenario we think of, and these shooters are/were just horrible people at least one of whom is now dead. Such a senseless tragedy.
A night at a bar turns into a bunch of people dead…
JohnHwagi t1_isdlwnd wrote
So what’s the suggestion? We cannot send psychologists to domestic violence calls. We obviously cannot ignore the calls either. You could argue for more police training, but there are plenty of good arguments against increasing police budgets.
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nationalizm t1_it9zfzm wrote
The guy was luring them in, he was hiding in a bush with camo and opened fire when they were faced away from him. No amount of training would have prepared them for that. RIP though.
fight_your_friends t1_is55pt1 wrote
Damn, town must have a ton of cops if they can spare that many to just sit outside a hospital.