Submitted by dragon8811 t3_z7nwd9 in news
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vexpopped t1_iy7gw0h wrote
So look at the choices: US doesn't export, Canada doesn't export, Iran under sanctions, China imports from Qatar as well, Russia under sanctions, and finally Qatar.
bloodydingbat t1_iy7gwsv wrote
You can’t make this shit up.
While the German National Football Squad is putting its neck out there, calling Qatar out on human rights, the politicians are wheeling and dealing.
Hypocrisy at its finest.
Freexscsa t1_iy7hnkx wrote
Most of the world still doesn't use electricity to heat their homes.
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Murky-Plastic6706 t1_iy7im64 wrote
I thought this was The Onion at first
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ApocalypseYay t1_iy7mh24 wrote
Not a good deal, for earth, nor for Germany.
jens-2420 t1_iy7mhhb wrote
No. Politics and Fifa events are totally different topics. For every country.
jens-2420 t1_iy7mk5s wrote
Do not shit your pants when crying so loud. You just do not understand politics.
eppic123 t1_iy7ougm wrote
Natural gas is still the main source of heating and nuclear power plants won't make heating pumps magically appear in every household of Europes largest country.
Never mind that Germany has the largest chemical industry in the world. An industry that is also heavily reliant on natural gas.
graveaffairsod t1_iy7ppwa wrote
I am sure you believe letting people freeze in a notoriously harsh German winter is better, but it is better to find an alternative to Russian gas.
iHeisenburger t1_iy7ptxo wrote
typical hypocrite westerns, few days ago biden administration green lighted chevron to drill oil in venezuela
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the_guy_who_agrees t1_iy7qmrx wrote
How do Germans feel about using slave blood to keep warm?
gor-ren t1_iy7qpbp wrote
Are you a Qatari bot or something? Hard to imagine a human being so cunty.
TheAmazingHaihorn t1_iy7qzjd wrote
Not the same but ok.
o_MrBombastic_o t1_iy7rf7t wrote
Tha fuck you talking about Both Canada and the US are some of the largest natural gas exporters in the world
Proof_Device_8197 t1_iy7rftf wrote
Well there is slave labour in Russia AND Qatar, so you may need to be more specific…
graveaffairsod t1_iy7rkyg wrote
Considering its trading off gas from Russia where they were buying people from North Korea for workers probably about the same.
jens-2420 t1_iy7rlpl wrote
Without any argument you tend to insult? 🤮
Proof_Device_8197 t1_iy7rr4c wrote
Canada and US export natural gas. A LOT of natural gas.
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the_guy_who_agrees t1_iy7s0h7 wrote
So much for being on the right side of history
gor-ren t1_iy7siez wrote
Huh, you respond in the same way the Russian troll farm workers do on YouTube videos about the Ukraine war. Are you a Qatari troll?
Proof_Device_8197 t1_iy7sjw3 wrote
Just like the World Cup: the game has never changed, but the players do.
jens-2420 t1_iy7sll7 wrote
You seem a bit disturbed for sm, right? Believing in Reptiloid rule as well?
Proof_Device_8197 t1_iy7tb8f wrote
Settle down bot.
the_guy_who_agrees t1_iy7tibs wrote
Yea. Lecture Asia on morality but don't have a pinch of it themselves
SpaceTabs t1_iy7vm1v wrote
Discontinuing nuclear wasn't sudden. It died a slow death starting in the 1970's. Do you know what will continue forever though? The "ergebnisoffener" searching process over the whole country for the storage of the irradiated nuclear fuel. Even after all these decades, the industry is still positioning nuclear as an energy source where the radioactive waste goes somewhere else and is someone else's problem.
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Lost_in_Limgrave t1_iy7whba wrote
Can’t tell if this is a bot or just a garden variety moron
jens-2420 t1_iy7wptn wrote
You do not have the slightest idea about European values and politics. Nobody is begging, but no one wants to fill the burses of US companies selling for 10 times the local price to European countries.
Lost_in_Limgrave t1_iy7wqt4 wrote
IKR? They stopped using nuclear because of Fukushima! Unlike Japan, Germany seems pretty geologically stable - at the risk of sounding like a conspiracy theorist, I wonder if “other factors” influenced this decision. Like, for example, a former Chancellor being on the board at Rosneft?
Lootcifer- t1_iy7x6ri wrote
Im sure you know so much about politics lmao
Lootcifer- t1_iy7x8px wrote
How dense can you be? Lmao
jens-2420 t1_iy7x933 wrote
More than the commentators, obviously.
Proof_Device_8197 t1_iy7xi71 wrote
One the BIGGEST issues with nuclear is that it’s a strongly supported cause by the people, but no one wants it in their backyard.
Lost_in_Limgrave t1_iy7ycmd wrote
I understand that, but how is that different from most forms of fossil fuel energy generation? I’d be a bit miffed if a coal-fired plant was belching smoke over my town too
Proof_Device_8197 t1_iy7zixl wrote
Sure, coal is absolutely terrible in that regard, and if anything a lot more unsafe. Nuclear has a stigma, (i.e: Chernobyl, Fukushima, Three Mile Island in the US), and even though it’s a lot more green than any other mining taking place to harness energy, it’s reputation and PR is still the worst.
Vulturedoors t1_iy815ki wrote
They should never have been so dependent on Russia in the first place.
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Lost_in_Limgrave t1_iy81ioq wrote
True. Still, it’s disappointing that German lawmakers would make such an irrational decision as to close the plants when they, like other West European nuclear plants, had operated without incident since the first one came online in 1969. From the looks of it they’ve had pause to reconsider closing the last of their stations this year though.
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chetchaka t1_iy82o0k wrote
Guess it's time for someone to make a fortune on electric blankets?
dellett t1_iy83d1f wrote
The sad thing is based on this user’s other comments here it actually doesn’t seem to be sarcastic. It is a great joke though.
Proof_Device_8197 t1_iy83rya wrote
It is a shame, but it’s not like it can’t be reversed. This a voting issue full stop. If the German people want nuclear they should demand it. There were a lot of protests back then, but it was a different time, and the political climate was not the same as it is today. It can absolutely start up again at any time, it just needs to be supported and offered to the public with as much transparency and public education as possible.
Lost_in_Limgrave t1_iy84wnm wrote
Let’s hope they do!
TuesdayShuffle t1_iy85i51 wrote
Well, if Ukraine has shown us anything, it's that nuclear plants can become hostages in armed conflicts. I assumed we all understood that we shouldn't fuck with them or act like we are gonna fuck with them during a conflict. That obviously isn't the case, this is why we can't have nice things.
t_toda_DOTA t1_iy871ss wrote
Hypocrisy at it’s finest. Just like NBA, Apple with China.
8604 t1_iy872s5 wrote
Look man sometimes it's better to buy oil/gas from despots instead of ruining pristine European land to drill it themselves.
It's called values
GMFPs_sweat_towel t1_iy87cay wrote
Hindsight doesn't keep the heat on.
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this_dudeagain t1_iy8ai91 wrote
The device you're posting this message with runs on slave blood.
this_dudeagain t1_iy8apmh wrote
Idealism doesn't keep people from freezing to death or wrecking an economy.
jonathanrdt t1_iy8aqw6 wrote
Germany doesn't have enough energy to run their country because they tried to establish meaningful ties w Russia in the hopes of making Russia a more useful economic partner.
They need the gas, and they don't have great near term options. The middle east is sitting on a ton of energy, and until we shed the majority of our need, the world will continue to buy their oil.
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Lost_in_Limgrave t1_iy8ds82 wrote
It was an unwise strategy for sure, but not one that I expect the Russians would try and repeat elsewhere, the main reason being that Germany is in NATO. I very much doubt the Russians would try and invade at all. If they did, it wouldn’t be for very long as they’d be pummelled by all of NATO. Either that, would go full WW3 very fast…
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Fucknutssss t1_iy8es77 wrote
Send it to Qatar
TuesdayShuffle t1_iy8gchv wrote
I honestly don't know how far Putin would/will push Russia, this whole invasion into Ukraine has gone off-script. He seems hell-bent on getting Russia wrapped up into military conflicts to keep himself in power. If his position as leader were to get threatened, I picture him doubling down and I really don't know what that looks like. I definitely feel for our NATO allies that are closer to the Russian border....
N8CCRG t1_iy8hpjh wrote
Not hypocrisy, unless the football squad is following directives directly from the government. Otherwise it's just two contradictory viewpoints from two different groups.
N8CCRG t1_iy8irux wrote
Why the hell would you say such blatantly untrue and easily refutable claims? The US is the second largest exporter of natural gas behind Russia, Canada is the sixth largest exporter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_natural_gas_exports
N8CCRG t1_iy8jamb wrote
They have kept the youngest reactors online still. The youngest reactors are 35 years old. They've shut down plants that were 50-60 years old.
The biggest problem about nuclear power is that the world almost completely stopped building new plants in the 80s. We should have been continuously building them instead of building the cheaper fossil fuel plants.
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the_guy_who_agrees t1_iy8sz8a wrote
I know and that's why my country doesn't lecture others on morality unlike the the right side of history west
guycg t1_iy8yjcy wrote
What country is that then?
I've yet to come across a country or people who don't have a superiority complex in their people or politics in some way or another.
Zombie_Harambe t1_iy90y31 wrote
All these useless European nations with no natural resources but coal should have gone nuclear and saved the headache.
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colossalboom t1_iy9ofl7 wrote
Dude, what? Do you want the Germans to freeze to death?
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Gaslov t1_iyakbf2 wrote
If we use up our uranium by providing power to the plebs we won't have any left for nuclear warheads!
bloodydingbat t1_iyawsf2 wrote
ESG compliant Germany ;)
bloodydingbat t1_iyawwi9 wrote
Your politicians were at the games in Qatar flaunting LGBTQ colors. Germany made it political.
N8CCRG t1_iyaymrb wrote
Mine? Do you think I'm German?
Spirited-Daikon-1245 t1_iybwnp2 wrote
As the Irish said, Renewable energy is possibly the greatest world peace initiative in history... because nobody could ever invade a country to steal its solar energy
Zombie_Harambe t1_iyc0unm wrote
Lol same for wind and geothermal. Though the later is niche.
prestocookie t1_iyc0uv4 wrote
Considering Germany was about to ramp-up its coal industry to meet its energy needs, I think this is the better option?
prestocookie t1_iyc0v89 wrote
Considering Germany was about to ramp-up its coal industry to meet its energy needs, I think this is the better option?
_sevxz t1_iyc30he wrote
It’s not hind sight, any sane person knew Germany was making a mistake when they shut their Nuclear stations after Fukushima and erected coal in it’s place.
Lootcifer- t1_iy7fzii wrote
Germany making the dumbest deals with the most fucked up countries cause its politicians don’t even know what they’re doing. They had fucking nuclear power plants and all of a sudden they stopped using them because NuCuLaR bAd! and now they gotta go begging to other countries who endup being the shadiest people to do business with.