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IntoTheMystic1 t1_j22uzej wrote

>Police are investigating whether the vandal — or vandals — had a beef with the Swanstons or if it was a random act.

Of course they included that

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InternetPeon t1_j22xgfv wrote

Is being a meat magnate really statue worthy?

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JaiC t1_j22yf7a wrote

One less monument to aristocracy-turned-capitalism.

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phellyphell t1_j232zu1 wrote

You should see what they did to the fudge- packing statue...

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haroldthehampster t1_j2335tt wrote

no investigation needed the result was an aesthetic improvement

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ckrygier t1_j236b28 wrote

Initially I misread the title and was horrified. Then read it correctly and was very amused.

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-Wicked- t1_j238qmv wrote

Something about this doesn't seem Kosher.

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percy_faucet t1_j23ubli wrote

A statue of a meat-packing magnate? Weird.

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skankenstein t1_j2463z2 wrote

I know this statue! We had a few Easter egg hunts under his watchful eye when my kid was small. The fountain is super unique. This is right outside the zoo, lots of traffic through the area. Either kids or transients.

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[deleted] t1_j24aixe wrote

This reminds me of that King of the Hill episode where Michael Keaton was grooming Lou Anne into the corporate mascot.

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zorbathegrate t1_j24fupc wrote

“Police are confident those who defaced the great Jebediah Springfield monument will be apprehended and brought to Justice. ‘We will leave no stone unturned and no backpack un nuggeted.’ Stated police chief Yondell Quimb”

/s

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Yuvneas t1_j24hc8m wrote

Replying to LenokanBuchanan (#1,147,901)

Likely environmental activists. There has been a lot of discourse about how much water beef and dairy use in the area recently. 64% of all of California's water is used for feed and cattle.

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MainCareless t1_j24irqv wrote

This is a good idea. Don’t allow them to make “heroes” out of slavers, blood soaked profiteers, or religious zealots. I’m for cutting this nuts off of these hero worship cults.

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stoshbgosh t1_j24uqxw wrote

Replying to SilentBtAmazing (#1,149,343)

I just looked at the index for the book Devil in the White City by Erik Larson that I remember reading years ago. I'm surprised Luetgert doesn't appear. Seems like he would have included this infamous Chicago murder as it was during the same time period.

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timothra5 t1_j24yg14 wrote

It hasn’t been a good week for sausage kings.

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internet_chump t1_j250ld8 wrote

Replying to MainCareless (#1,149,586)

Chill, brah. Nobody was worshipping this guy as a hero. There's no evidence of the motive, so it could have been random vandalism, a disgruntled employee, a drunken frat-boy pledge stunt, or literally any other of 1000 reasons.

The fact that nobody or group has claimed responsibility or given a reason is a pretty strong reason to think the motive had nothing to do with activism, because if no one knows why it happened then what was the point?

Even if it was activism, what would this accomplish? It shifts focus away from the cause and distracts from the message. Nobody is going to listen to people they don't respect. If you want to change people's minds they have to be willing to sit at the table with you. Don't cheer this on.

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internet_chump t1_j25niu8 wrote

Replying to TheJudgementIsDeath (#1,155,727)

You do understand this is the same justification that runs through the minds of the people shooting up electricity substations, right?

The same justification the Jan 6th insurrectionists used?

This is the same "the ends justify the means" bullshit that leads to the worst of human behavior and never solves any problems. You can't eat the fruits of a poisoned tree. The means are the justification of the end, the categorical imperative demands it.

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matsonfamily t1_j25saku wrote

"nearly century-old granite statue of Charles Swanston in Sacramento’s William Land Park"

In case someone just wants the city, name of magnate, or location of statue, but doesn't want to click

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skankenstein t1_j25ynjr wrote

Replying to LenokanBuchanan (#1,147,901)

It’s such a random statue in a random place to make a real impression or statement. I would understand if it was on the state capitol grounds, because we have had monuments vandalized for social and political issues. This is just a rando statue in a bougie neighborhood around the corner from our zoo. It’s a place that kids run up and down in the grassy area between the fountains and probably climb on him too.

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TheJudgementIsDeath t1_j2600mm wrote

Replying to internet_chump (#1,157,766)

Fair enough, but I'm talking about when there's a genuine need to resist. And I get that paranoid racists could use the same argument for their fucked up shit, but so could the folks resisting the Nazis back in the day, or their contemporary cousins today.

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internet_chump t1_j266rpl wrote

Replying to TheJudgementIsDeath (#1,160,316)

No, you don't seem to get it.

What constitutes the "genuine need" you speak of? Seems like there is genuine need to reduce carbon emissions, should people be sabotaging our power infrastructure? What if it turned out that these substation attacks were committed by people using that exact justification, because there's a genuine need to use extreme tactics to reduce energy consumption? Are you saying you would condone that? If you don't condone that, are you saying there isn't a genuine need to reduce greenhouse gas emissions?

There's a genuine need to reduce the growing far-right hate groups, too. What sort of extremist actions are justified in that case? Who gets to draw that line? You? Me?

Two wrongs don't make a right. Whether you want to admit it or not, that's the essence of your justification for whatever romantic notion you seem to have about committing "extremist acts of resistance".

Not only that, they aren't nearly as effective as non-violent respectability politics and passive civil disobedience.

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Tinyfish1549 t1_j29bu2e wrote

AP News, why quote someone who has "no idea" but still needs to throw suspicion on vegetarians?

I have no idea why anyone, unless they’re vegetarians and didn’t like meat-packers” would do this to the statue, Eymann said

That's just literally giving fuel to the rumor mill. It's hard not to be polarized when so-called journalists are promoting baseless rumors.

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