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Avangelice t1_j12aco9 wrote

Sigh... Tell me its not click bait... Lemme dive into the article... Brb

Okay I'm back. Original piece posted by op is a click bait meant to get you pissed. Had to go into the marine article and first para said this.

A new academic report on efforts to integrate Marine Corps boot camp recommends dropping gender-specific salutations for drill instructors, but service leaders are not convinced they want to take that step.

Study says this but high ups say we are considering but nope.

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OhNoMyLands t1_j12f6p5 wrote

There’s this science fiction series called “the expanse” and it delves into this in an indirect way. Instead of “yes sir” and “yes ma’am” they just say “yes sir” to both genders.

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VanVelding t1_j12j8tp wrote

Star Trek did it too until Voyager.

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Larmefaux t1_j12p90c wrote

And Voyager did acknowledge that tradition when Janeway requested not to be called sir.

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tehmeangene t1_j13ow78 wrote

Janeway requested to be called Captain. Ma'am was acceptable in a crunch.

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SheriffComey t1_j14dvld wrote

And now let's move on to Janeway and Schrödinger's Prime Directive.

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dastultz t1_j13iq0j wrote

I understand "sir" to be short for "senior", as a title of respect. It isn't necessarily gender specific. We can change words however we want to.

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TheOccultist t1_j15073n wrote

No, you really can't.

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Electrical_Tip352 t1_j151z4h wrote

Yes we really can. The meaning of words changes all the time. Take guys for example. Originally a gendered term, but is now, in common language, gender neutral. Same with dude.

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TheOccultist t1_j153hxt wrote

Words mean something for a reason. If you change the meaning of words then they don't really mean anything. How about we change go f*** yourself to actually mean you look great today? Do you think this could cause any confusion and problems? What about racial slurs? Can we say that they mean flowers and bunny rabbits now and that's okay? What if we change the word stupid to actually mean smart? Words mean something for a reason. And by switching them around at whim all you're doing is degrading human language and what it means.

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Electrical_Tip352 t1_j1545ns wrote

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_change#:~:text=Semantic%20change%20(also%20semantic%20shift,different%20from%20the%20original%20usage.

Here you go buddy. No one is talking about one person just deciding a word isn’t bad 😂. The meanings of words literally changes over time in a society.

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TheOccultist t1_j1562gj wrote

Yes, obviously I realized there's a precedence. And that has often gone on to lead to more stupidity and ambiguity. Look at the word literally. It literally does not mean literally anymore and this literally is a sentence that doesn't make sense.

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Electrical_Tip352 t1_j15c50u wrote

Lol. I literally get what you’re saying. Hahah.

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ScottIPease t1_j16h31w wrote

and here I am literally wondering if they are a literal troll, or literal moron...

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Noman800 t1_j154mr2 wrote

Words are just sounds coming out of your mouth. We arbitrarily decided what they meant to start with, they aren't imbued with meaning. Words and their meaning are malleable and change all the damn time.

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NoHateMan62 t1_j15ttod wrote

Isnt that already the case?

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Telerrek t1_j169qel wrote

Nope, the official way to address a female commissioned officer is Ma'am.

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d4vezac t1_j135zrs wrote

It’s OP’s super cringey blog 🤣

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cast-away-ramadi06 t1_j12msfq wrote

Too lazy to read the article, but I'm betting this is just for Bootcamp. What they're probably looking at is what I think the Army does, which is to address Drill Sgts as "Drill Sgt".

In the Corps, it's "Aye aye Sir". They'd probably replace it with "Aye Aye Drill Instructor". There's no way they're going to expect recruits to know ranks during the first couple of days.

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EndangeredBanana t1_j13vm9w wrote

In Army boot camp recruits learn REALLY quick not to address Drill Sergeants as "Sir." One will be reminded that Drill Sergeants "work for a living."

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Informal-Suit9126 OP t1_j12ahjs wrote

It's not. it's sourced.

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AwesomeBrainPowers t1_j12fv0s wrote

  1. It's a WordPress blog with no About section or ownership statement and a Twitter feed that hypes up The Crazy Pillow Guy.

  2. The much better source it references does not say anyone "is planning" on doing anything: It says USMC commissioned a study, and the brass was looking at it, but they had reservations. And that's all.

Edit:

Wait a minute.

You spend a lot of time submitting that shitty WordPress blog to various subs around this site.

Is it...your shitty WordPress blog, by chance?

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Noktious t1_j12hgsn wrote

I love this comment.

And you're probably right. Lol

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TheElderFish t1_j12hoow wrote

Find a single .gov or .mil source that backs up your argument and I'll donate $100 to your favorite charity.

Or admit you're a complete fucking idiot.

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Velkyn01 t1_j13fxq2 wrote

Get rekt OP. Absolutely dunked on.

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MilitiaJoanHart t1_j15sg43 wrote

lol you can’t reference your blog and call it a source you bottomless dweeb

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