TBF ….it should be legal. Its no more dangerous than booze and cigarettes

Or maybe booze and cigarettes should be illegal as they're as dangerous as cocaine?

We tried that with booze once and it didn’t work at all and keeping coke illegal hasnt been working for 50 years

We should also make murder legal. Laws against it hasn't been working for hundreds of years.

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you. Just pointing out that there's always 2 ways to look at the situation.

Truly wonderful headline - here's the details:

>Health Canada clarified the parameters for granting the licence, saying the company is licensed to sell for scientific and medical purposes only.

>"They cannot sell products to the general public," the federal department said.

>Adastra Labs can only sell to other licence holders who have cocaine listed on their licence, namely pharmacists, practitioners, hospitals, or the holder of an exemption for research purposes, Health Canada said.

I had emergency minor surgery to stop a nosebleed once and the Dr used liquid cocaine to numb the area. I was nine and flying!

No, they're not selling it over the counter to anyone who asks. So it's not legal yet. The argument I keep hearing about companies that try selling it, online or in a store, is for harm reduction. They say they want to eliminate street dealers selling toxic drugs by offering a safer alternative. I can only believe that if they sell it at a higher potency and reduced cost while generating just enough profit to stay active. Otherwise, they're just more of the same typical dealers, cutting their shit with pig dewormer to inflate their product and max out their profits.

I made a "false fact nancy grace" meme a decade ago in adviceanimals

"Canada is trying to legalize medicinal cocaine"

So... if my nose bleeds for... a normal reason, the doctors will give me cocaine?

AFIAK, they need to certify test kits -(chemical sniffers) train dogs, etc.

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there's a standard that has to be met for the test kit you use to lock someone up.

the target substance need to be standardized just the same.

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NIST Chemistry WebBook, SRD 69

https://webbook.nist.gov/cgi/cbook.cgi?ID=C50362&Mask=200

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Cocaine
Formula: C17H21NO4
Molecular weight: 303.3529
IUPAC Standard InChI: InChI=1S/C17H21NO4/c1-18-12-8-9-13(18)15(17(20)21-2)14(10-12)22-16(19)11-6-4-3-5-7-11/h3-7,12-15H,8-10H2,1-2H3/t12?,13?,14-,15+/m0/s1 Copy
InChI version 1.06
IUPAC Standard InChIKey: ZPUCINDJVBIVPJ-PFSRBDOWSA-N Copy
CAS Registry Number: 50-36-2
Chemical structure: C17H21NO4
This structure is also available as a 2d Mol file
Stereoisomers:
Pseudococaine
Allococaine
Other names: 8-Azabicyclo[3.2.1]octane-2-carboxylic acid, 3-(benzoyloxy)-8-methyl-, methyl ester, [1R-(exo,exo)]-; 1αH,5αH-Tropane-2β-carboxylic acid, 3β-hydroxy-, methyl ester, benzoate (ester); L-Cocaine; Benzoylmethylecgonine; Ecgonine, methyl ester, benzoate (ester); Neurocaine; 2β-Carbomethoxy-3β-benzoyloxytropane; 2β-Tropanecarboxylic acid, 3β-hydroxy-, methyl ester, benzoate (ester); 1-α-H,5-α-H-Tropane-2-β-carboxylic acid, 3-β-hydroxy-, methyl ester, benzoate; Bernice; Bernies; Burese; Cecil; Cholly; Coke; Corine; Ecgonine, methyl ester, benzoate; Eritroxilina; Erytroxylin; Girl; Gold dust; Happy dust; Kokain; Kokan; Kokayeen; Methyl 3-β-hydroxy-1-α-H,5-α-H-tropane-2-β-carboxylate benzoate; Star dust; 2-β-Tropanecarboxylic acid, 3-β-hydroxy-, methyl ester, benzoate; 3-Tropanylbenzoate-2-carboxylic acid methyl ester; Methyl 3β-hydroxy-1αH,5αH-tropane-2β-carboxylate benzoate (ester); 3β-Hydroxy-2β-tropanecarboxylic acid methyl ester, benzoate; 2-Methyl-3β-hydroxy-1αH,5αH-tropane-2β-carboxylate benzoate (ester); (1R,2R,3S,5S)-2-Methoxycarbonyltropan-3-yl benzoate

WILL NO ONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN of licensed scientists and medical personnel?

No. This nose bleed would not stop. I had random nose bleeds, several a year, and this one just would not stop, so after an hour my mom took me to the ER, they cauterized the offending artery/vein, I still get nose bleeds now and then but haven't had one that wouldn't stop since that incident. I have had issues with my blood not clotting like it should all my life, I have had two blood transfusions an picked up a nasty hep c infection from that. Great fun.

Prohibition creates more problems than it solves. The war on drugs is a failure

It goes to all of the Canadian government funded drug addicts.

1st off, pharmaceutical cocaine has been in use for over a century as a topical painkiller. 2nd off, pharmaceutical cocaine is 10% purity and NO ONE would use it to get high

“Awww, dang it man…” - Dr. Rockso

Yeah. I had sinus surgery, and they used cocaine on me as well. I was asleep and only knew because the nurse told me when I woke up.

Prohibition doesn’t work- at all…

Who would assume otherwise??

What a waste

It actually works well when targeted as part of a broader strategy - it's just that the US has never done broader strategies, they only ever done token efforts.

As I recall cocaine does have a legitimate medical use in eye surgery

Weird... cocaine only made my nosebleeds worse

Read an old thread about people saying they were given cocaine for broken noses. Best numbing agent for resetting apparently.

I would absolutely do pharmaceutical cocaine to get high

We give a disappointing dose of nebulized cocaine for nose bleeds sometimes. Never seen anyone enjoy it

How do you know it has it worked? It hasn’t been legal for a century so you have nothing to compare it to, for all you know legal cocaine use would quadruple the number of users.. meaning only prohibition is keeping it down to todays user numbers.

Plus the statement that prohibition of alcohol did not work is a historical inaccuracy. Prohibition did have positive effects, including a significant decrease in alcohol consumption and a reduction in alcohol-related deaths.

Do you really not see the violence the drug trade has caused in poorer communities? Its a black market item so that makes it way more dangerous. Colombia in the 80s/90s, mexico now.

Please the war on drugs has been an enormous failure

What make you so sure the violence would not be a hell of a lot worse if it was legalised?

The most violence caused by any intoxicant is caused by alcohol; which is legal.

Have you ever heard of a gang shooting over aspirin?

What are the number of deaths of cocaine related gang violence vs cocaine related usage deaths?