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CrewMemberNumber6 t1_iybrt5j wrote

They should have received prison time. This is bullshit.

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mf-TOM-HANK t1_iybs8kj wrote

Yeah I'm sure these ghouls won't weasel their way out of this or carry out their penance in bad faith in any way

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the_grass_trainer t1_iybteqw wrote

You mean to tell me they gotta do one hour of work each day... For a year and a half... And that's fucking it?

Edit: probably not even.

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Scoobydoomed t1_iybuj0v wrote

What's next?

Judge: OK sir, you have been found guilty of reckless driving...I'm sentencing you to 500 hours of community service driving a school bus.

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squirt619 t1_iybv6kp wrote

How about a day in prison for every fake robocall made? That sounds fair.

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OftheSorrowfulFace t1_iybvtyi wrote

Yeah, they're just going to run a registration drive at CPAC or a Proud boys rally

Edit - They've been ordered to register in low-income neighborhoods of Washington, D.C, but I'm sure Wohl will be up to his usual bullshit.

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Derpinator_420 t1_iybx5m4 wrote

The boys at Internet Today are not going to like this, ricky and elliot have been following these clowns for years. If you want full documentation of all their crimes and stunts, Internet Today probably has a playlist on their youtube channel.

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YakInner4303 t1_iyc0hvg wrote

The correct penalty is a restraining order on behalf of the telecommunications system. They are permanently barred from possessing or interacting with any telecommunications device or approaching within 50 yards of such a device.

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norahceh t1_iyc3gg8 wrote

In my state they would not be allowed to register voters after a fraud conviction. They should in no way be involved with the information people put down on voter registration forms or as a custodian of a legal record in the voting process.

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davidgstl t1_iyc90u9 wrote

Couldn't give them 1 year?

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Sweatytubesock t1_iycdjck wrote

These two idiots are working hard to get to the federal pen. I wish them godspeed.

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bustedbuddha t1_iycn4bg wrote

I don't want these jokers anywhere near people's voter registration.

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InGenAche t1_iycosa9 wrote

Nearly four full months at 35 hours a week is a hefty community service tariff. Plus being a felony comes with its own disadvantages.

And there are other criminal charges and the $5m lawsuit still in the works with him already pleading guilty on this, isn't going to help.

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elisakiss t1_iycsdr4 wrote

Registering voters is hard to do. If you are doing it in bad faith, there are going to be lots of errors in the voter registration applications. People are going to think they are registered to vote, show up at the polls and they won’t be registered. Bad idea. The judge show have asked for 500 voters registered correctly.

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misconceptions_annoy t1_iyd3tlz wrote

I love the punishment fitting the crime, but this needs to be accompanied by real punishment. Subverting democracy. People get incarcerated, get food stamps cut, get pushed further into poverty, etc, based on laws, including unfair ones they would’ve voted against.

In the same way you get a worse sentence for attacking a cop vs a random person, because it’s attacking the system, attacking democracy should have a very high sentence. Higher than attacking a cop, because that’s an individual and these guys are attacking the very foundation of democracy.

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misconceptions_annoy t1_iyd4jnr wrote

My thoughts too.

They should get jail time for attacking democracy (it’s proportionate - the laws these people would’ve voted on could include things that impact whether they get unjustly incarcerated) and they should be forced to help the community they harmed, but not in a way that’s risky like this. Make them babysit to give parents time to vote. Or make them work in a food bank or soup kitchen so people have one less thing to stress about. Or, if they’re not unbearable to be around, make them tutor kids.

Best option: hundreds of hours of babysitting kids while the parents are in the next room with responsible people teaching them more about voting and law, and getting them registered. Partner with a local non-profit that gets people voting and that lets them know which laws are most likely to be changed by this election.

Of course removing the need for registration would be best of all, since in most countries you’re registered automatically, but this judge can’t control that. Make these guys volunteer for an organization getting rid of voter registration, doing something they can’t sabotage, like prepping meals or watching kids.

(Edit: I’m in Canada. For the provincial election I don’t think I needed to register at all. They mistakenly didn’t send me a card and I called to ask and they told me where my polling station should be, based on my address. I just showed up and voted. Every person has only 1 voting station they’re allowed to go to, based on their geographical area. At the station, there’s a guy with a list of all the eligible voters in the area. He checked off my name as having voted. Perfectly easy to have mechanisms to prevent someone voting multiple times at different stations or in a different person’s name without adding hurdles like registration. For the federal one a few years ago I remember checking some stuff online. Could’ve been that I needed to register, but I think I was checking where my area’s polling station was. Either way, took 3 seconds. We still have skeevy things - the federal election had a polling station on my university campus, within walking distance for tens of thousands of people who took classes and/or lived nearby. but for provincial, the closest one required a car to get to, or a bus ride on a really bad transit system. ‘5 minutes by car or 50 by bus’ sort of thing.)

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misconceptions_annoy t1_iyd5fv0 wrote

Honestly they should’ve gotten it from this. If it’s a worse crime to attack a cop than a regular person, because you’re attacking the system, then shouldn’t there be a very high penalty for directly attacking democracy itself?

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OGZ43 t1_iyd7hp1 wrote

Republicans win at all cost. "$5.1 million fine levied by the Federal Communications Commission".

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Musetrigger t1_iyd8ugl wrote

Jacob Wohl. Now there's a name I haven't heard in a long time.

Little shitstain.

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oz6702 t1_iydemrj wrote

I dunno, it could also be that the judge's intent is to force these two shitweasels to interact with Black people and learn that they are, in fact, people, and that they deserve a vote as much as anyone else.

Now, I think the judge is smoking some top shelf if that is in fact their intent, but at least that'd be a reasonable interpretation of the sentence.

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SelectiveSanity t1_iydiail wrote

Oh it gets better...

>Cleveland.com reports that Cuyahoga County Common Pleas Court Judge John Sutula also fined each $2,500 and placed them on two years' probation. He ordered them to spend six months of that period on home confinement beginning at 8 p.m. each day.

I mean, is public flogging really that cruel and unusual when comparing this crime sentence to say, a normal person on probation getting 5 years for voting when nobody told them they couldn't, which in of itself is kind of fucked up?

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hyren82 t1_iydqnvo wrote

While I agree the sentence is woefully inadequate, this is just the state of Ohio's sentencing. Michigan has criminal charges against them and the FCC is suing them for $5.1M

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Elanapoeia t1_iydqx62 wrote

I think things like this are still done but more on a "you don't get to own a tv or a phone with internet access"-level rather than any distance requirements which, yeah, physically impossible to enforce

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tyco_brahe t1_iyduulj wrote

So, this is an Ohio ruling, so maybe the are in favor of what these felons did. Give them access to the voter registration of low income people that are likely to vote D in a state that is firmly red.

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juxley t1_iydvjtk wrote

They should appeal for cruel and unusual punishment against their religious beliefs.

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BillyQz t1_iydwe4g wrote

Hmm I bet the Democrats say we will send folks to help :) LOL

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XN28thePOS t1_iydzu0o wrote

I like how they said they "regret" their actions and are "sorry," but they are appealing their case for charges of doing the exact same thing in Detroit . Yeah, seems real sorry.

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Greigh_flanuhl t1_iye2mno wrote

I’ve never been in a fight in my 42 years, and I’ve never had an urge to punch someone in the face like I do these assholes.

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stalinmalone68 t1_iye3u55 wrote

They should have been sentenced to cleaning septic tanks.

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naugasnake t1_iye4bfn wrote

I wouldn't let these two ass hats be in charge of cleaning the floors of your local gas station, let alone be involved in registering voters.

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Nop277 t1_iye4jua wrote

Not only does it not seem enough, it seems kind of odd to require people guilty of election interference to to participate in it more. Like punishing a pedophile with community service in the local school cafeteria.

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aircavrocker t1_iye4m5e wrote

This weasel is gonna ratfuck this punishment in his usual bad-faith actor way…

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jazzwhiz t1_iye7568 wrote

I love this. Ohio goes, "well the FCC is already working on hitting their wallet hard and Michigan is trying to lock them up. Doing the same thing again will have limited impact, let's try something else."

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Rad_Dad6969 t1_iye9i92 wrote

Not enough time. Even if those calls were only 30 seconds, their crime would span over 700 hours. If the call lasted a minute and a half, that's over 2000 hours.

Bare minimum they should be required to spend at least as much time being punished as was spent by thier victims listening to that crap.

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bluesam3 t1_iyeaol0 wrote

I wonder how it works out if their sentence in one prevents them from fulfilling the sentence in another. If, say, they're in a cell in Michigan and so unable to spend any hours at all registering voters in Ohio.

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The_PosterNutbag t1_iyee9mx wrote

Why the hell are they letting people register voters as a punishment ?

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m0nkeybl1tz t1_iyeef2s wrote

I didn’t realize you were allowed to commit election fraud in exchange for community service. Can I clean trash from the side of the freeway to remove people I disagree with from the voter roll?

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john181818 t1_iyefgab wrote

I am curious about how a state judge can enforce a penalty to be done in a federal district?

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woops69 t1_iyeizsu wrote

Voter registration only impacts primaries and the candidates that the parties put forward. Won't have a huge impact on actual elections.

Edit: unless they just don't complete the registrations. I didn't think about that aspect...

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brpajense t1_iyenoab wrote

Seems like a really stupid idea to send these two people door-door soliciting people’s private information, particularly when they have repeatedly demonstrated antipathy towards minorities.

The dumbass judge should have just given them jail time.

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SEDA-GIVE t1_iyeq48p wrote

Thank God they’re getting actual consequences in NYC! New York City Values 🫶🫶🫶!

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ACaffeinatedWandress t1_iyeqvez wrote

Having lived in the DC area, I would strongly caution those douchebags against pissing off low income residents of that area.

They might find that the world is less kind to spoilt cis-gendered white dudes who do nothing but brew bullshit in some places than others.

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TheBlueNomad t1_iyesipl wrote

They got away with a crime. Only 500 hours and most likely they won't even do a proper job.

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philodendrin t1_iyeupty wrote

I would just make sure that their work was doubled-checked so that when they pull some shit, and they will, that the Judge throws the archive at them, not just the book but the entire archive.

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Coogcheese t1_iyewf3c wrote

What could possibly go wrong....

Does the same judge also sentence back robbers to work as bank tellers?

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ilikedota5 t1_iyewspf wrote

That was the takeaway from the Robbers cave experiment. That exposure to others can destroy outgroup bias. When the two groups of boys were assigned cooperative games, they stopped hating each other and saw they were just there to have fun at a summer camp too.

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LoneRonin t1_iyezr2k wrote

Wohl is a bloody sociopath who should be locked up and never be put in a position of authority over anyone for the rest of his life. He genuinely has some kind of bad wiring where he has no morals, conscience or inhibitions.

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Anagatam t1_iyf0fc2 wrote

Restorative justice works.

To be clear, RJ has oversight & accountability.

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KillNyetheSilenceGuy t1_iyf0tam wrote

It's not inadequate, it's inappropriate. These guys are known fraudsters why should they be handling voter information? Let them spend their 500 hours of community service picking up trash by the highway or cleaning bathrooms at public parks and rest stops.

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LikEatinGlass t1_iyf0wbm wrote

Wow if only they had done something actually dangerous to the community like have a personal amount of drugs!

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l3etelgeuse t1_iyf2dyf wrote

Typical projection from the right. They say the left is commiting systemic voter fraud, but the only criminal convictions for this are coming from right wingers.

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disdainfulsideeye t1_iyf5bd2 wrote

Great, so now they can lie directly to the people they are registering.

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MustLoveAllCats t1_iyf9kt5 wrote

Yes, public flogging is fucked up and there is no place whatsoever for it in civilized society. It's on a similar level of thought and intelligence as thinking it's reasonable to break someone's jaw because they looked at your girlfriend the wrong way.

As for the issue you're trying to compare this to, that's a really, REALLY bad comparison. You're comparing a completely barbaric punishment for a crime to severe punishment for a misunderstanding

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Khemith t1_iyf9wxg wrote

Should have been 10,000 hours. Republicans have 100 other racist and illegal scams going on.

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