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xSaffax t1_j0ecbqo wrote

Kiwi here, it was the idea of David Seymour to do this, but the general consensus of most Kiwi's is that it shows great sportsmanship from them both to be willing to put it all aside and come together like this to raise money. The current bid is at $45,500 with 6 days left on the bidding.

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techman710 t1_j0eh84i wrote

She seems like a very normal person who is doing her best despite not always getting it right. The US could use 545 of her to replace all 3 branches of our federal government.

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Rod_Munch666 t1_j0ew3mn wrote

She is heading in the same direction as Tony Blair .... see ya later .......

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CablePicker t1_j0f45af wrote

This woman could take a dump on stage and reddit would swoon over her.

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Forever_Overthinking t1_j0fjk37 wrote

For anyone confused like me:

>New Zealand PM was caught on hot mic earlier this week with a candid comment about Act party leader David Seymour. An official signed copy of the transcript of New Zealand prime minister Jacinda Ardern calling a political opponent an “arrogant prick” will be auctioned off to raise money for a prostate cancer charity.

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phido3000 t1_j0fl9zl wrote

Replying to xSaffax (#940,835)

What I like is that to appeal to voters, they have to get along, and not blow up about the small stuff. Also be accepting of the things you say.

Politics doesn't have to be cess pool. You could win people over with love, compassion, and heroic deeds.

Just remember if nz fucks up as a failed state, Australia will invade.

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osogordo t1_j0fmqf7 wrote

I'd buy the NFT for a good cause.

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DSMB t1_j0fthj2 wrote

Replying to techman710 (#941,079)

>She seems like a very normal person who is doing her best despite not always getting it right.

There is so much bullshit in politics, I find myself gravitating more and more towards simple character assessment of prominent figures when forming an opinion of a party.

Since we can't trust anything they say, I will judge their personality and actions instead. People will critique leaders based on certain policies, and this is really important to keep constant pressure on our leaders. However it should not distract us from assessing who is most fit to lead and who will at the least try harder for the people.

Many people think that these seemingly decent people are actually really sneaky and worse than the loud mouthed asshole (not referring to anyone one particular). But I think this is bullshit people convince themselves of to justify their preconceptions.

For example, as an Australian, my opinion of Morrison solidified when he addressed the country during the bushfires. I could see right through his bullshit. He couldn't even fake empathy. He didn't care. It was like he was saying what he thought would sound like he cared. And the evidence continues to mount. Robodebt being a prime example.

With the amount of spotlight politicians get, and sometimes unfiltered social media, they can only fake it so far. We can tell who really cares, and I think (just my opinion of course) we should pay more attention to that human perception.

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DSMB t1_j0fu5nz wrote

Replying to ClammyVagikarp (#942,889)

>They

There's always someone in the comments of an Ardern post pretending the whole country doesn't like her.

While party support shows dim prospects, she is still the preferred prime minister.

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ClammyVagikarp t1_j0fwydp wrote

Replying to DSMB (#943,058)

You know they vote for a party instead of a prime minister in the westminister system right? Why am i bothering. She speaks redditor language and gets worshipped like a goddess here. And schroedingers redditors are simultaneously representing the overwhelming majority and are an oppressed minority.

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Saelred- t1_j0fx0l4 wrote

Yer I like this, he knows he is an arrogant prick, and is not afraid to admit it. Good sport.

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ReadAllAboutIt92 t1_j0g0hzq wrote

Replying to Hugsy13 (#943,008)

If I were a politician (which thankfully is never going to happen) I’d always be way more suspicious of those who agree with me than those who challenge me. I don’t want someone to tell me how brilliant I am, I want someone to come and poke holes in my ideas so that they can be improved.

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AFlawAmended t1_j0g54j2 wrote

Replying to xSaffax (#940,835)

American here. I'm continuously jealous of how smooth and functioning the New Zealand government is. Or at least seems to be, again I'm American so I don't hear a lot about it, but anytime I do it's awesome.

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ripyourlungsdave t1_j0g9zdu wrote

See? This is how you deal with scandals like this. I'll take this over a 15 minute, soul-less apology any day.

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CCtenor t1_j0gd8cs wrote

Replying to DSMB (#943,035)

Same. While I will listen to policy, I spend most of my time listening to how a candidate acts, forming a character assessment, and voting based on that. At the end of the day, I find I want somebody who embodies what I want to see in a person and/or leader more than somebody who is good at saying all the right things.

Unfortunately, as a left-leaning American in (what I feel is) the most chaotic, stupid, and possibly divided, democratic political system to somehow manage to stay together (so far!) in the modern, western, world, a character assessment of a candidate often means checking how often they repeat directly harmful rhetoric, and lies, about minority groups, when platforming their politics.

Needless to say, most of the time, I’m voting a straight ticket in one specific direction, to avoid putting people into office who believe that, say, they can see Russia from their house, women’s bodies have “ways to shut it [rape] down”, or their grandparents were “good at nuclear”, and less so who has better policy. At least there is a correlation between lying, and having bad/no policy, seems a bit correlated still.

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Status_Advantage t1_j0gum7f wrote

Replying to AFlawAmended (#943,548)

Lol right?! I read a Washington post article on this the other day and the conflict resolution was astounding. It really put into perspective just how utterly fucked up our political landscape is.

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FrankDrakman t1_j0hhxj8 wrote

She gets to make a joke about it, and gets a pass. If someone had called her the equivalent, say a "stupid c*nt", he would be immediately cancelled.

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Birchtooth t1_j0hn36t wrote

Replying to AFlawAmended (#943,548)

New zealander here, constantly surprised that people in other countries think shes great. She has sunk lower in the poles than ever, its hard to find a person on the street thats happy with the current government.

The minister of foreign affairs is literally married to her first cousin and he seems to get a lot of jobs as an expert consultant along with her son/nephew.

Shits all sorts of fucked mate watch almost any interviews she does with a guy called ryan bridges on a show called newshub, they are all on youtube. Hes a local guy so its more of a nz perspective

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The_Scourge t1_j0homnr wrote

Replying to DSMB (#943,035)

Scomo acts like he's God's gift and it's true for the Labor party. So many generational liberal voters tolerated Howard and Trumble but shit no one outside of Hillsong could justify just how inhuman Scotty From Marketing proved to be. That handshake he forced on that poor woman who refused to shake his hand after the fires was the perfect snapshot of a complete arsehole. As a reluctant Shirey I know the Engadine Maccas story is probably bullshit but at this point who cares? Not like believing it changes what a sociopathic bastard he really is.

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AFlawAmended t1_j0hpqw0 wrote

Replying to Birchtooth (#946,654)

Thank you for your perspective!! Yeah, like I said I hear very little about NZ except for stories like this, breath of fresh air from the hellscape that US politics has become. But yeah, I'll definitely check those out, thanks!!!!

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DarkMatterBacon t1_j0htexe wrote

Stupid bitch .. . Just doing my part for charity

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generally_sane t1_j0hw6ho wrote

Replying to Birchtooth (#946,654)

I hear you, but that's amateur corruption if it's mostly just about nepotism. Try living in the States for a day to see just how Mad Max our country has become. Nepotism is one of the tiniest crimes our so-called leaders engage in. Come back to play when someone tries to overthrow your government or is accused of any host of crimes, e.g. rape, murder, espionage, gun fetishism, hate crimes, etc. I think many romanticize NZ because 1) we only hear the good stuff and 2) LOTR. Humans are a pretty simplistic species.

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xSaffax t1_j0hz76a wrote

Replying to AFlawAmended (#943,548)

This party has been in for 2 terms now so people are definitely getting tired of her/labour, but they still have a lot of fans too. Like any country there is division but our two main parties both sit very close to centre so there's not that much difference.

Also we have an MMP political system so there's usually a lot of political representation as if they get at least 5% of they vote theyvgll get a seat in parliament. If the big parties don't get enough votes to govern alone (usually) they have to form coalitions with other smaller parties which guarantees those smaller parties specific things they want/a spot in government and helps the bigger party get the numbers.

An example of this is that labour didn't have the numbers to govern alone so they formed a coalition with NZ First and the Greens, and agreed that Winston Peters, the leader of NZ First, would be deputy PM

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Reb_OISEAU t1_j0iwzxa wrote

she wasn't wrong when she said it

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