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H-Barbara t1_j15nwcx wrote

I'm surprised it wasn't a "they breathalyzed themselves and found no wrong doing" story.

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MyGodItsFullOfClowns t1_j15odac wrote

Connecticut recently had a state trooper commit a DUI hit-and-run in their cruiser.

We need to take D.A.R.E out of the elementary schools and put it in the police academy.

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toi80QC t1_j15pm7p wrote

Just sober up with some blow like the rest of the squad

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WiseCraics t1_j15us2z wrote

Just 7 bad apples guys.

7 drinking and driving apples who won't see any repercussions.

Oh well!

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plaid_piper34 t1_j1662dv wrote

My mom’s a teacher and one of her student’s dad was a cop who was drinking and driving and hit and killed a friend of hers on the road.

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Im_homer_simpson t1_j16eco7 wrote

Reminding the police about the law. There whole fucking job.

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TheSecularGlass t1_j16f84s wrote

They should lose their licenses at a minimum. No excuse as a cop for that. They know VERY WELL the repercussions.

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jaqjaw t1_j16fv0a wrote

Of course it’s the LAPD

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Blestick t1_j16ggrg wrote

I thought it was 7 DUIs in 2022, but no, that's just in the last TWO WEEKS!

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dodexahedron t1_j16k66u wrote

Replying to Im_homer_simpson (#1,001,908)

I literally had a cop yell at me "don't tell me the law, I AM the law" during a traffic stop when he was dead wrong about something he wanted to ticket me for. He of course did anyway and the court dropped that citation like a hot potato, because I was, in fact, correct about a traffic law. Something a state HP guy should be at least passingly familiar with, you'd think.

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dodexahedron t1_j16kigc wrote

Ohhhhh I get it now.

LEO never stood for law enforcement officer.

It's law eschewing oaf.

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TossPowerTrap t1_j16tq10 wrote

Replying to Blestick (#1,002,090)

"Officers driving under the influence while off-duty has been a persistent problem at the LAPD for many years, blamed by some department insiders on wildly inconsistent punishments for officers caught-in-the-act..."

You don't say.

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Uumm_wat t1_j16yi03 wrote

Considering that cops party with cops 2 things. 1. There were people at the party who knew and let this go. 2: there were definitely more cops at those parties that didn’t get caught!

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Informal-Ideal-6640 t1_j1726wl wrote

Replying to 12TraditionalPizza (#1,001,866)

“DARE leadership retorted that "Scientists tell you that bumblebees can't fly, but we know better." 15 Of course, scientists don't tell us that bumblebees can't fly and this statement illustrates a complete lack of any understanding of science” Bruh wtf

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8bitdrummer t1_j178sia wrote

Yeah and quit fucking shooting people while you're at it.
Thx

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codewordtacobell t1_j17c0re wrote

I wonder if that lady in the video I saw yesterday was referring to this.

“I had to arrest my co-worker today, so, yeah (sips drink from straw)”.

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PoopEndeavor t1_j17fd3q wrote

The current police situation is so fucked that I almost have to wonder if there’s any chance they weren’t that drunk or were set up/encouraged to do this. For cop-on-cop punishment.

Like remember what happened to the LASD cop who was “accidentally” killed by a bunch of his own colleagues during an “exercise” just after he spoke out against some police involved in a rape case?

Either way, it’s bad. Either lots of cops are drunk driving (very likely) or bad cops are ousting better cops. Shame shame shame

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bunnyrut t1_j17ham2 wrote

My sister's boyfriend was killed by a police officer who was drunk. The other cops arrived and tried to keep him from taking a breathalyzer because they knew it would bee way too high. The state troopers arrived and pushed them out of the way to have it done. Even with trying to wait it out he was way over the limit. If the state troopers didn't intervene the local cops would have made sure the guy was under the limit before he got tested.

It took years for my sister to finally get a day in court because the local cops tried so hard to "protect their own" from charges. And the final result was just a slap on the wrist.

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kynthrus t1_j17hlfx wrote

Can you also remind them that killing people isn't their job?

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DaoFerret t1_j17j351 wrote

Replying to dodexahedron (#1,002,422)

You’d think they should have some requirement to be familiar with the law, but the courts have found that’s it’s “good enough” if they just THINK something is against the law.

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emogalxp t1_j17kise wrote

Man it’s messed up they’re allowed to arrest people when half of them shouldn’t be qualified to do so. This isn’t right. It’s disgusting.

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dpdxguy t1_j17n41g wrote

I'd bet those cops will not be convicted, and are therefore innocent of the charges.

/s, but not /s

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DaoFerret t1_j17n6js wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#1,005,249)

While I am sure individual departments (even state departments) may have continuing eval/education requirements, so far as I am aware, no state in the US requires a state-wide licenses, with state mandated requirements for all licensed Police Officers in the state to maintain their license (unlike Doctors, Nurses, Lawyers, Accountants or even Real Estate Agents).

I would be happy to be proven wrong if someone can point me to a link that specifies otherwise though.

Edit: seems the OP decided to delete their post that a state could decertify a LEO, and that minimum continuing requirements already existed, instead of providing some links supporting their claim.

I decided to look a bit and found this: https://www.ncsl.org/research/civil-and-criminal-justice/decertification.aspx it looks like in a small minority of states there is some possibility of being able to decertify a LEO, but I have not gone through and looked at how involved (or lasting) that process is.

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TheFcknVoid t1_j17tzc3 wrote

Should also probably tell them to stop beating their wives.

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VBB67 t1_j17we6f wrote

In the story, one who killed 3 people while DUI in 2017 is still awaiting trial?? I know the courts are slow, but 5 years?

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j4ckbauer t1_j17wy2v wrote

Despite best efforts, their system failed to protect 7 from being arrested, out of the many more who do this that we don't know about.

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odd_gamer t1_j17z5fd wrote

To protect and swerve, apparently

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Takaithepanda t1_j180z46 wrote

Should be common fucking sense to someone who enforces the law but here we are.

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orderofGreenZombies t1_j181fax wrote

The oniony part of this is that they were actually arrested and told not to drink and drive.

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skaliton t1_j18248j wrote

Replying to 12TraditionalPizza (#1,001,866)

the problem is that dare has and always will be a failure it is the ultimate 'feel good' thing that has the reverse effect. Seriously the whole have an officer show up and tell kids that if they have one sip of beer then BOOM! frank Gallagher or if you simply see marijuana then boom living under the bridge addicted to "ice" tends to downplay the serious drugs when half of the class spends lunch break smoking the 'weed-stuff'

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SchnarfPoitRuhRoh t1_j1837j2 wrote

LA should have easy access to, oh I don't know, thousands of Uber & Lyft cars.

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zeledonia t1_j1844uq wrote

I once randomly ended up at a cop party in the small town I grew up in. More people drove home drunk from that party than I have knowingly seen drive drunk in the rest of my life.

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PrettiKinx t1_j189ws6 wrote

But why? I'm a cop. I can break the law /s

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ASpellingAirror t1_j18a84z wrote

Replying to TossPowerTrap (#1,003,237)

It’s a problem in every department, especially small rural departments. Shit, in those departments the cops are drunk on duty. We need to start holding police officers to the same standards we hold average citizens.

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Canaduckfart5 t1_j18cecp wrote

Replying to Randommaggy (#1,005,382)

I know this won't be a popular statement, but probably because an arrest/charge is not the same as a conviction in court. The whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing... the same right that is supposed to be afforded to everyone in the U.S. regardless of whether or not you like their job.

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sekh60 t1_j18clji wrote

All Cats Are Beautiful.

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Fiddlefaddle01 t1_j18etdr wrote

Replying to plaid_piper34 (#1,001,276)

My uncle is a cop and member of their motorcycle "club." They get piss and puke drunk on his homemade moonshine and then all drive on their bikes. He just told me this anecdote as if it was funny how his buddies were pissing themselves on their bikes because of how good his moonshine was...

I was appalled. He hasn't been around the family since.

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chalfocheesediddle t1_j18f4gh wrote

This is insane. I got a dui as a young man, and part of the California paperwork is signing that since you now know better, the punishment will be more severe if you get a second one. Don’t these cops already know better? Shouldn’t they be punished as much or more than a normal person for the same reason?

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KeyanReid t1_j18feha wrote

Replying to ASpellingAirror (#1,006,598)

No, we need to hold them to higher standards.

I don’t know about you, but I don’t run around with a gun always on my person and a full blown assault kit in my car. I don’t ruin people’s entire lives with my judgment calls. And I don’t end people’s freedom and prospects for a decent life.

They need to be held to a higher standard than the average person because they’ve been entrusted with great power. Power they’ve shown they are not fit to wield

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KeyanReid t1_j18fse7 wrote

Replying to The_Phaedron (#1,006,743)

Right? It’s like the job has coddled awful people for so long that awful people know they can do awful things and seek that position out now.

So we have police forces manned by awful people seeking to use their power to do awful things and they protect each other.

Remind me why our taxes fund these assholes and not healthcare again

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toepicksaremyfriend t1_j18hht4 wrote

Replying to KeyanReid (#1,007,023)

I wholeheartedly agree.

The only problem is, how do we police the police? Their internal affairs department isn’t doing enough to weed out their “bad apples,” and the average citizen is too busy working (hello student debt, medical bills, unaffordable housing, rising gas and food prices) to attend town hall meetings or disciplinary hearings for officers.

Again, I’m not disagreeing with you, but that’s one very large obstacle.

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ebolaRETURNS t1_j18hw8j wrote

The weird part is that they're willingly arresting each other for this.

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dont_judge_me_monkey t1_j18i46q wrote

Replying to mtdewninja (#1,003,529)

they have no problem with murdering people but they throw everyone under bus for DUIs, very odd indeed. Maybe the 7 that got tagged were somehow singled out because they dont play nice with others. It's a good way to get everyone to fall in line

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illegalsandwiches t1_j18iah3 wrote

Replying to toepicksaremyfriend (#1,007,198)

The answer is the installation of a non-biased department that has no partisan or police affiliation, that withholds the PD to the standards, practices, and laws they must abide by.

A few problems:

  1. The police is not going to want that.
  2. Who installs them anyway?
  3. Pay comes from... the taxpayers? Sure as hell ain't going to come from the police budget (see #1).

There's definitely more, but I'm not coffee'd yet.

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ShinyBloke t1_j18ib6c wrote

Cops being cops, getting away with shit cause they are a cop. It's fucked up , but just the way it goes.

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chasonreddit t1_j18j4qy wrote

Not to try to compare, but this doesn't really phase me.

We had a local cop, ON duty, passed out asleep in his patrol car with a partial bottle of vodka open at his feet.

I think he got suspended with pay. That's gotta sting.

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imthescubakid t1_j18k2ba wrote

I'd be drinking and driving too if I had that shit job

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braedonwabbit t1_j18k96m wrote

Replying to skaliton (#1,006,112)

They talk about legal consequences instead of the issues created by drugs use within personal and professional relationships. They don't speak about how homelessness will affect future prospects and how the people around you will slowly give up on you. DARE has been a long running joke to most people and they haven't done enough to change their image.

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Starlifter4 t1_j18kzws wrote

The cops who cited and arrested them are gonna find themselves out of a job soon.

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KeyanReid t1_j18ol1e wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#1,007,671)

This completely ignores the fact that people are arming themselves to defend against lawless cops. Because who else is going to do it, the cops?

When you act like an occupier in a society you don’t live in, people are going to respond to that.

We just had a state legalize shooting cops breaking into your home because that’s where US policing is at these days. We don’t need to run to their defense on hiring issues when it’s a problem they created

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FreezeFrameEnding t1_j18pi0a wrote

what a surprise

Cops would meet their monthly quotas in less than a week if they were arrested for the crimes they commit.

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Rizzpooch t1_j18q5xv wrote

And that’s officers impaired enough to be arrested and not just get the “oh, hey Tim. Let me grab you some coffee” pass

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dangerouspeyote t1_j18sp3w wrote

Cops drive drunk all the time. I once witnessed 7 cops from one small town police force all get annihilated at a bar and they all drove home.

But they knew they could get away with it, because that's how it works for cops.

ACAB!

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KeyanReid t1_j18sqmm wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#1,007,892)

I mean, if you criminalize everything than everyone is a criminal. The average American breaks numerous laws each day, not out of any malice, but because our thousands upon thousands of laws are layered in such a way as to make sure we’re all guilty of something.

Did you have the wrong plant? Did you cross the street not in the 2% of road reserved for pedestrians? Is your house up to code? There’s always a law being broken and corrupt cops ready to use them.

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Canaduckfart5 t1_j18tbax wrote

Replying to Rage_Like_Nic_Cage (#1,007,952)

Which is sort of my point... nobody likes those hundreds of thousands of examples. Why add 7 more to the list? As I mentioned in a different reply, I 100% agree that the standards (and maybe the punishments) should be higher for cops. I don't think those hundreds of thousands of others should have lost their jobs because of mere accusations either. Sometimes, people end up in weird positions that look bad. The courts are supposed to sort that out, but I also understand that a lot of people don't have much faith in the system because of the questionable track record.

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joleme t1_j18tlvs wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#1,007,671)

Being a cop isn't even in the top 5 most dangerous jobs. The danger is 1000% overblown so they can use that as an excuse. The vast percentage of cops will never even see a gun while on duty. Don't make bullshit excuses for them. They do it enough themselves already.

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IAmFern t1_j18uyi6 wrote

Were any of those officers charged with DUIs? In Canada, first offence is loss of driver's license for a year, plus a huge fine.

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Rage_Like_Nic_Cage t1_j18vtbb wrote

Replying to Canaduckfart5 (#1,008,156)

ok so where do you draw the line? Should alleged mass shooters be able to keep their job? What about if one of your employees gets charged with Jerry Sandusky levels of pedophilia, are you going to keep them on until the verdict is read? Should Casey Anthony be allowed to keep her old job since she was found not guilty?

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piper4hire t1_j18w8v2 wrote

it’s a shame those 7 cops lost their jobs

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WalktoTowerGreen t1_j18xdu6 wrote

Replying to ASpellingAirror (#1,006,598)

Geez I remember a traffic stop in bumFuck VA and the cop reeked of whiskey, and had trouble maintaining his balance. And when I say “had trouble” I mean like….he fell on the ground when he got out of his car, then wobbled his way towards my car and then had to lean on my car door to continue standing.

I did not get a ticket at least, just yelled at by officer JimBean

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Canaduckfart5 t1_j18y5e4 wrote

Replying to Rage_Like_Nic_Cage (#1,008,368)

I know most of what I'm writing is too idealistic to ever apply in the real world, but for the sake of argument I'll keep it going.

In a perfect world, there is no line to draw. If someone has the vacation/PTO/whatever days to take off so they don't miss work while they're awaiting trial (for those who don't bond/bail out of jail) isn't that supposed to be the idea? The whole justice system is supposed to serve the function of deciding who actually did what, and if those actions constitute a crime based on the laws at the time. I don't agree with the outcome of some of those high-profile cases (Casey Anthony being one).

I'm well aware that the system doesn't work correctly now, but it would be kinda cool if we could strive to improve the system instead of letting public opinion make our choices for us anout these cases.

I don't give a shit about these cops more than anyone else. In all honesty, I probably care about them less since these DUI charges are probably true. I just think the number of people calling for ANYONE to fired/locked up before a trial is a little too "torch and pitchfork" for my tastes.

P.S. Thanks for being reasonable and replying to my nearly impossible daydreams with questions and critiques, rather than threatening to murder my family because it might look like I'm trying to defend these drunk-driving dipshits.

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KeyanReid t1_j19099l wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#1,008,563)

You’ve clearly never had your life and freedom threatened by an emotionally volatile person feels in a heated situation.

That’s good, but it also seems to lack perspective on the current state of affairs. Mind you, I didn’t make the law that says it’s now okay to shoot cops who go too far, I just paid attention to the circumstances that made it necessary.

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montemanm1 t1_j1911vh wrote

If you are going to assume responsibility for holding others accountable for their behavior, your own behavior better be fucking impeccable

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tyrmidden t1_j196dh5 wrote

>These arrests happened in just the last two weeks, and the department warned officers that driving drunk or buzzed could endanger their lives or careers.

And the lives of others, too, but apparently the LAPD has other priorities.

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CertainRound4464 t1_j19706a wrote

Gee I'm sorry I forgot that I wasn't supposed to drink and drive.

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AgrenHirogaard t1_j19862v wrote

My city just had its police holiday party at a local bar this weekend. So many drunk cops driving home, very legal very cool.

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JBeezMer t1_j19bi46 wrote

Replying to toepicksaremyfriend (#1,007,198)

One??? you just listed a waking moment for 80% of the population. Either work or starve, freeze, struggle, beg, ect) The list is forever growing, much like the bank accounts of most of our elected officials... Is 200K+ a year a modest income? especially being they have more vacation and holidays than anyone one else in the workforse, top that with the right to buy stocks, and invest in the same company's they write multi billion dollar contracts to for every aspect of infrastructure and boom It's a formula for the American way! Screw you guys. I'm taking care of myself first. Which leads to corporate lobbiests and lawyers, really pressing"$$" these officals and lawmakers into changing laws or passing new ones that directly affect the abiltys and penalties of corporations or companies so when they screw everyday Americans in mass with crap products or services, there isn't even a reasonable avanew for us to respond. i.e" The no class action lawsuit(s) malarkey big tech hides behind these days, also Amazon has jumped in on that as well." I mean, this allows them to literally steal from millions of people daily... Like if I stole 3 dollars from 10 million people today I'd never have to work again but I'd also be sitting in a jail cell after it was confiscated by the cops who wouldn't return it to everyone anyway. you see where I'm going anyway... something massive has to change in this country and to start with its Supreme Court Judges! they need to either do their job as it's laid out by our constitution or they need to be hung for treason! I know that is harsh, but like you said. A higher standard! The highest powers of are held to the highest penalties. If they are gonna use human nature as an excuse, then what's more natural than the law of the jungle! You want that responsibility, it comes with a price, a risk, an aspect of fear being necessary to provide the proper and highest quality of service to the nation you have sworn an oath to protect and serve. We all make our choices in the one life we have. I yours is to protect and serve you better have a real good idea of how to do that, or you may end up swinging on CNN tonight give that news agency a actual purpose... I know we as a society value life over everything else. But what kinda life is it for the majority of the population if they work themselves to death just trying to survive ... the more you make, the more you $pend the less there is in, the, end!

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earhere t1_j19gsdc wrote

Replying to No_North_8522 (#1,010,196)

This feels like a failing of policing in general. It's not that much of an ask for a police officer to be able to articulate the law that a person is being ticketed/arrested for. It's also a failing that a police officer can just enforce their will against the public regardless if their actions are lawful or not, and the civilian has to argue in court or have a lawyer argue on their behalf to show that the cop's actions indeed were not lawful; and they'll still have to pay court costs.

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[deleted] t1_j19jz1g wrote

Jail them, that won't happen though. They dont have to follow the laws like us peons.

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dlte24 t1_j19zlob wrote

What next? Are they going to tell them to stop beating their wives?

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uwbbfbfan t1_j1actho wrote

I thought this was an Onion article..

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KelenHeller_1 t1_j1aj409 wrote

Many moons ago when I was young, for a short time I dated an LAPD motorcycle cop. He used to drive his car with a tall rum (151) and coke between his legs. When I asked, he said he didn't worry about getting a DUI as long as he stayed inside the City of LA. He told me of an incident when he was driven home in his own car by an on-duty pal who pulled him over (the partner followed them in the police cruiser). I had no way of knowing whether or not any of that about his fellow officers was true. LAPD Motto on the side of every black and white unit: To serve and to protect.

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