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bilateralrope t1_j6o5f1c wrote

Reply to comment by Mattie725 in Woke’s no joke: breakfast cafe’s name awakens US conservative ire by domo415

Please give us some examples of "when good and necessary ideas are taken too far". Being vague just makes us assume the worst of you.

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Mattie725 t1_j6oabtp wrote

From my job: really good that my large, international employer focuses on diversity and everyone feeling like they have no obstacles because of gender, sexuality, colour,... However, targeting 40% women in technical/engineering positions by 2025 when it's currently 30% and only 20% of graduates in engineering are women, is letting your perfectly fine ideas of equality run over the reality of the situation.

Also from my job: I've been denied an internal training because 'we are looking for a more diverse group'. Aka, we already have a few white men so we will now deny 70% of our workforce in light of 'diversity and equality'.

Oh or better! A big city in Belgium has publicly stated that if multiple applicants for a job have the same qualifications, they will chose the one from a minority group. Again, everyone deserves a job, but you can't justify obvious discrimination because it's not against a minority.

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icanith t1_j6os7w2 wrote

Wow so you are dragging out the ole anti affirmative action argument. Move along ppl nothing to see here.

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Mattie725 t1_j6ovm3l wrote

You mean the 'don't fight discrimination with more discrimination but just against other people' argument? I absolutely do.

I'm not denying there was and is discrimination. But that's no reason to openly discriminate against me because I am a white man.

*young man btw. It's not like I've built a career on discriminating others.

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ImminentZero t1_j6oz3tl wrote

> A big city in Belgium has publicly stated that if multiple applicants for a job have the same qualifications, they will chose the one from a minority group.

There needs to be some sort of tiebreaker in that case, what would you suggest? What's an equitable solution in that case?

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Mattie725 t1_j6p2hou wrote

As far as I know, they might spin a wheel. I don't know. But solving said problem by openly discriminating against people who don't happen to be a minority is as bad as the inverse.

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