1664 New Amsterdam becomes New York, English warships in the harbor. Looking S on Broadway from the Wall. wwwsavingny.com for reconstructions, 3/15 NYC Fire Museum Openingchareth_cutestory66 t1_jbyedb3 wrote
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Lmao bro if you’re yearning for 17th century Manhattan vibes why on earth are you still here
TwilitFox t1_jbyeze8 wrote
That's not my yearning dude, I'm just randomly pointing out that NYC should try to be a healthy, beautiful place to exist, and cater to humans instead of solely working for rich people. And, this would also benefit rich people as well, because, despite their calloused souls they're still technically human and would benefit from living in harmony instead of vehicle exhaust.
chareth_cutestory66 t1_jbyhfh2 wrote
That’s valid, honestly just found it funny that people arguing this tack usually look back to like the 1950s and not uhhh New Amsterdam
ZestyItalian2 t1_jbys7jx wrote
New York has more walkable neighborhoods, more mixed use zoning, more parks and green space per capita than literally city in America.
TwilitFox t1_jbyzdtd wrote
Well sure, if that's how you cherry pick your definition of reality. But the vast majority of NYC neighborhoods are nothing like you describe.
ZestyItalian2 t1_jbz2emx wrote
Completely untrue. You sound like somebody who’s only seen New York in movies.
TwilitFox t1_jbz5gin wrote
Born here, Ma'am. I'm quite familiar with the pollution and lack of gardens and nature predominating most parts of the city. Apparently someone advocating for quality of life is triggering for you.
ZestyItalian2 t1_jbz6khz wrote
Nah just peeved and skeptical of anyone who trashes my city while ludicrously yearning for an imaginary pre-capitalist 17th century utopia under the auspices of the colonial Dutch, who literally invented capitalism, largely in New Amsterdam and at that exact moment in history, and also claims NYC has no green space when it has over 7,000 square feet of parks and green space per capita, the most for any North American city with over 3 million people.
I’m sorry you hate it here to much. Leave.
TwilitFox t1_jbz8vvz wrote
No I love NY. It's ok to be realisticly critical about a place you love. Your logical fallacies are showing btw. Someone got a solid B+ in statistical manipulation, kudos. I could point to a neighborhood with zero green space and you would say, with a straight face, that per capita it's actually very green despite the lack of green. Nice lying, you have a real gift.
ZestyItalian2 t1_jbz9n4v wrote
You’re not being realistically critical and I’ve told you why. You’re suggesting that you can rebut empiric evidence with your opinion, and I’m afraid that’s not how it works.
You’re a disgruntled Marxist with an axe to grind and you’re annoyed when your sweepingly hyperbolic, ahistorical, and entirely made-up statements are challenged. There are plenty of places where you can get away with that kind of thing but this isn’t one of them.
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Agitated_Pickle_518 t1_jc0ha1w wrote
Holy shit are you insufferable.
ZestyItalian2 t1_jc00jne wrote
Yeah enjoy fighting against the character you made up.
I’m just here to tell you you’re objectively wrong about green space nyc and that you have some frankly hilariously deranged ideas about the way Dutch colonies were run.
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