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Im_Not_Really_Here_ t1_ivfb42t wrote

Reply to comment by NetQuarterLatte in Left Unmonitored In His Cell, He Etched His Suicide Note Into a Wall On Rikers Island by hau5keeping

Imagine clicking on a post about a person who committed suicide after spending two weeks in Rikers because he couldn't afford bail and concluding that getting tougher on crime is the answer.

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princessnegrita t1_ivfd01l wrote

They were all over the last article about a person dying at Rikers insinuating (based on nothing but their own biases) that the person was killed by another inmate.

All of these people think that sprinkling in some vaguely liberal-sounding buzzwords is enough to conceal the fascism inherent in their beliefs.

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Im_Not_Really_Here_ t1_ivfe9xb wrote

My favorite part is when they pretend YOU'RE the one politicizing some poor guy offing himself with a sock because death was preferable to Rikers.

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princessnegrita t1_ivfgot4 wrote

Oh don’t even get me started on when they try to bring up POC and the issues we face as if it supports their beliefs.

So many white redditors cosplaying care about poc in an attempt to shut down conversations about justice. They’re doing it in this thread right now.

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cC2Panda t1_ivfkuu3 wrote

I've said this a dozen times before on this sub, but we need to better fund out court system to actually make it "fair and speedy". We spend more than $1,500 per day for someone to be in Rikers. Even if you are someone who believes in small government the financially intelligent thing to do is better fund our courts so that people get to trial in a timeframe that doesn't ruin their life. The societal, economic, and human cost of putting the average person awaiting trial in prison for 4 months is disastrous.

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Grass8989 t1_ivgzp7y wrote

And what happens if/most likely when they’re found inevitably guilty. Are we then okay with the prison sentence? Or do we just want to get rid of jails all together? The majority of people on rikers have violent priors, that’s the reality of the situation.

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mission17 t1_ivhaex6 wrote

Riker’s comes before the trial and before any guilty verdict. Riker’s is not a prison.

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cC2Panda t1_ivh61x6 wrote

The entire system needs massive reform. We need a system that focuses on rehabilitation rather than punitive actions.

Our current system does not provide fair and speedy trial as dictated by the sixth amendment.

Our prisons create worse people and have some of the highest recidivism in the developed world, so clearly it's not working.

44% go back to prison in the first year of release. And then we just blow even more money. The financially smart thing is to try to reduce recidivism by actually helping the prisoners. Less wasted taxes and less victims.

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Grass8989 t1_ivg23py wrote

I mean does anyone think strangulation should be a bailable offense? If anything it shows how we should be harder on violent assaults and have them be a no bail offense across the board, not that there should be no pretrial incarceration which is what many people are implying.

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SharkSpider t1_ivfbylf wrote

Should he have been let out to go back home and beat his wife some more? After the initial assault (which absolutely could have been prevented by being tougher on crime) this was a no-win situation.

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utamog t1_ivfgg08 wrote

Isn’t this article saying that an assault robbery was what snapped him in the first place? Definitely reinforced my viewpoint that we need to crack down on crime harder.

You are advocating to let him out on bail so he can harm his wife more? Where is the sense or empathy in that?

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NetQuarterLatte t1_ivfc9qv wrote

>concluding that getting tougher on crime is the answer.

That interpretation is on you and your own biases. Don't project your own biases on me.

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Im_Not_Really_Here_ t1_ivfckkw wrote

Your mealy-mouthed response is pretentious, cowardly, and fools nobody.

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NetQuarterLatte t1_ivgxnuv wrote

>Your mealy-mouthed response is pretentious, cowardly, and fools nobody.

Anyone who reads my original comment with honestly can see I did not conclude for "tough-on-crime". That interpretation came from your own bias.

You could've asked in good faith and I would've answered.

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Im_Not_Really_Here_ t1_ivgy8mh wrote

>Anyone who reads my original comment with honestly can see I did not conclude for "tough-on-crime". That interpretation came from your own bias.

And anyone can see where the downvotes landed to determine what readers thought.

I would've asked in good-faith if I thought you were a good-faith actor.

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ThisIsMyFifthAccount t1_ivgm0cv wrote

What’s your next favorite hobby after posting on an anonymous NYC forum about crime? Do you even live in NYC, or NYS for that matter?

Talk about a wasted fearful life, you must be stressed and lonely.

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