Submitted by irish_fellow_nyc t3_zqny4y in nyc
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Karrick t1_j0zdguq wrote
Recruitment and retention problem. What the hell is my incentive to stay? Is my pension next? Are they going to take the money I've paid into that and tell me to fuck off?
Backseat_boss t1_j0zjd7z wrote
Well isn’t that fucking the working class over once again, politicians favorite thing to do.
Pool_Shark t1_j0zoutd wrote
Ah I wonder how much if a kickback he’s getting from the private contractor
Babhadfad12 t1_j0zst8z wrote
Considering NYC does not have the power to issue new USD, default risk is always be a concern for the lender (or creditor), which is proportional to the political pull of the deferred compensation recipients.
Karrick t1_j0zuttw wrote
The issue in this case is not the viability of the investments, it's "will the union give away my rights to the pension I paid into at some point in the future?" Because that is the precedent they are setting here.
Babhadfad12 t1_j0zv7xp wrote
For the recipient, the effect is the same. Call it agency risk instead of default risk. There is plenty of history where deferred compensation agreements such as retiree healthcare and defined benefit pensions were renegotiated.
mowotlarx t1_j11atis wrote
The city unions have been beyond useless, especially the last few years. Watch them roll over for Adams and fuck over workers then tweet about how they're #GettingStuffDone or some nonsense.
IsayNigel t1_j11u429 wrote
That’s exactly what’s happening honestly
Dont_mute_me_bro t1_j13fldk wrote
ERISA laws would prevent that. Nothing wrong with protesting and organizing over a real loss in deferred compensation (retiree benefits) but conflating it isn't helpful.
Dont_mute_me_bro t1_j13fm9w wrote
Dont_mute_me_bro t1_j13fqk1 wrote
DeBlasio could have resolved expired labor agreements before leaving office but he punted. He's painted a Progressive but that maneuver was anything but....
Karrick t1_j13imzw wrote
1, There are explicit exemptions for government retirement plans in ERISA. I'm not an expert, but surface level research says that state/local government plans have more leeway in accounting and reporting practices and are not insured by the pension benefit guaranty corporation.
2, central to the point of this is that the union leadership is telling members to encourage their representatives to change the law to allow for reduced benefits. Even if there are ERISA protections from members now the union leadership is attempting to remove them in the future.
Karrick t1_j13myei wrote
I suppose the effect is of the same nature, but this is a complete abrogation of the agent's responsibility. This is the union saying "yeah, even we don't care about the benefits you're promised." It is entirely reasonable to not expect your agent to pull that shit.
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mowotlarx t1_j15a94n wrote
‘The Cash Monster Was Insatiable’: How Insurers Exploited Medicare for Billions
TL;DR: It's a private plan that uses the term "Medicare" to dupe people into thinking it IS Medicare. It offers worse coverage and less doctor options for a higher price. It's bad all around.
IsayNigel t1_j15arg7 wrote
They literally asked their members to lobby the city to allow this to happen.
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mowotlarx t1_j15dnfg wrote
Medicare Advantage Plans Often Deny Needed Care, Federal Report Finds
This has been pretty widely reported for awhile. Medicare Advantage notoriously denies coverage for things covered under Medicare and it's harder for patients to find doctors in network.
Dont_mute_me_bro t1_j15j6yu wrote
Which unions? PBA? UFT? UFA? DC/37?
IsayNigel t1_j15j9nu wrote
The UFT was one of them
captainktainer t1_j0z98ke wrote
Headline should read "Mayor to Retired City Workers: Drop Dead!" Can't imagine why we're having a massive recruitment problem in city government when this is how you can expect to be treated after you've put in your time.