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TheOneYourSon t1_j6527lh wrote

Reply to comment by unndunn in Hamilton Ave in Red Hook, before and after the construction of the Gowanus Expressway and BQE in the 1940s-50s by TheSandPeople

lolol yknow moses deleted tons of housing right?? quit being a dick and actually think about things critically before you decide to have an opinion

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unndunn t1_j653lqf wrote

People get their houses deleted all the fucking time for infrastructure projects. That's how cities develop and grow. Quit being a pussy about it.

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TheOneYourSon t1_j654kq0 wrote

ye except usually they receive suitable housing afterwards, and also these projects dont usually uproot several established neighborhoods (coincidentally black ones. wonder why…). But ill forgive u for being a moron and a jackass cuz i can tell u dont read much, since ur opinion amounts to “just take it” lmao

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unndunn t1_j656xog wrote

How is any of that my problem? I don’t care how it got built. It’s here now, and I’m going to use it while you guys whine about it.

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TheOneYourSon t1_j65xn6l wrote

"I possess no empathy, therefore u suck" is an interesting take

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unndunn t1_j67g51e wrote

lol, what, you expect me to say “oh, I’m gonna stop using the BQE out of respect and consideration for all the people who sold their homes to the city in order to make it happen”? Fuck outta here. 🙄

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TheOneYourSon t1_j67zkly wrote

mm thats not what i said, i said you shouldn’t have an opinion on moses if ur an asshole about it lolol. i use the bqe too boo, i just know the guy who built it did so at the cost of a lot of new yorkers and dont pretend it was good that he did so.

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ChrisFromLongIsland t1_j655o6z wrote

Moses built basically all the public housing that exists today. Moses was one of the biggest builders of housing in the cities history.

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cdavidg4 t1_j65cf9y wrote

Most of that was part of "slum clearance" and not greenfield developments. So he tore down housing to put up public housing. I doubt in the end it was that much new housing.

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ChrisFromLongIsland t1_j65olwm wrote

So now we are onto a value juadgement between slums and public housing.

When the public housing was built the housing that was destroyed was old, small and antiquated. The public housing was bigger apartments modern and in a park like setting. Today the poor depend on the public housing that was built then.

Which would you rather have? Would you knock down the public housing today and give it back to private landlords at market prices?

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cdavidg4 t1_j65p6l4 wrote

I put the slum part in quotes for a reason since it was his term, not mine.

I'm not judging, simply pointing out that he built homes while also tearing them down, so in my opinion it doesn't make him one of the biggest buildings of housing.

And I also want to note that the "towers in the park" model of low income housing has also been found to not be very successful.

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ChrisFromLongIsland t1_j68oek2 wrote

I agree the housing in a park did not necessarily work. I would agree it was probably a net even. Though I do think Moses was trying to make life better for people overall. Many if the things he did have had great benefits to society even today. There are good things he did and bad.

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