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SnapCrackleMom t1_j8u84bq wrote

Aaaand they're from Delco. I think one of them is the son of an Upper Darby town councilperson.

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familyofgeniuses t1_j8u8gbw wrote

I'm glad Larry took the time to make a tough on crime public statement for this case.

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GooFoYouPal t1_j8u91hx wrote

Should have to buy victim replacement car, just as good or better, and have to do 200 hours of actual, monitored community service in immediate area of Temple. Cleaning, greening, etc.

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jaimiedeth t1_j8ubr3s wrote

Replying to GooFoYouPal (#1,836,786)

Temple students started a go fundme for the owner (a disabled vet and Temple alumni) that was up to 13k as of this morning . I believe they were planning on giving him the funds by the end of this week.

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AlVic40117560_ t1_j8ubxf1 wrote

Replying to toss_it_out_tomorrow (#1,836,942)

What would you call forcing people to perform labor? Just because it’s not as bad as it was in the past, doesn’t mean there are still improvements to be made. I totally agree that they should have to pay damages, but doing 200 hours of community service? Or what? They get put in jail? Call it what you want, but it certainly doesn’t sound like not slavery.

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Zhuul t1_j8uc20a wrote

Delco is the Florida of the Philadelphia metro

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toss_it_out_tomorrow OP t1_j8ud0kj wrote

Replying to AlVic40117560_ (#1,837,000)

>but doing 200 hours of community service? Or what? They get put in jail?

YES. You don't go trashing a city, flipping cars that people use their hard earned money to buy so that they can go to work and school, destroying the streets with trash, piss, shit, and vomit, beer cans, bottles, etc... and just get yelled at by a judge and fined. You make people regret what they did by having them CLEAN UP THEIR MESS OR GO TO JAIL. If they don't like it, then they should not have done it.

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anonymous_lighting t1_j8ueai8 wrote

Replying to go_berds (#1,837,034)

not surprising honestly. i don’t think many people living in philly with young kids put them through school, high school, and college there. probably way more teens young twenties in immediate suburbs than city and a lot commute to city for big events

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Vague_Disclosure t1_j8uhc96 wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#1,837,273)

Pretty sure most people are okay with the idea of restorative justice when it comes to non-violent crime. However, there's no amount of community service that will bring a victim back to life or un-assault them.

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rootoo t1_j8uj8un wrote

Replying to Phl_worldwide (#1,837,041)

This will never make r/PublicFreakout and the people that saw the original footage and talked shit about philly being a lawless hellscape full of braindead assholes will go on not knowing that justice was served.

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toss_it_out_tomorrow OP t1_j8ujt91 wrote

Replying to go_berds (#1,837,599)

ah man, it's the twisted teas that gives them away. I guess Temple is the furthest "into the city" the NE folks will go. Most of my family is in the NE and when you so much as mention dinner in the city, they act like you suggested Manhattan

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Vexithan t1_j8unq65 wrote

Replying to AlVic40117560_ (#1,836,902)

Helping to clean up the city you fucked up by being a dumb asshole seems like a pretty appropriate way to start getting at restorative justice. It’s a way to make reparations for your shitheadedness.

I had to do community service as a kid one time when I did dumb shit. I had to do it at the police garage which was a waste of time because I just learned to dislike the cops more. But if I had to do something in the park I vandalized I guarantee you I’d have a better appreciation for the park.

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MEB_PHL t1_j8uoksu wrote

Asking a clifton heights kid to not do property damage is like asking a rooster not to crow, or the sun not to shine

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jwillystyle77 t1_j8uph0w wrote

Glad we didn’t have good cameras when I was in my 20’s.

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pineapple-pumpkin t1_j8uuo6s wrote

Replying to toss_it_out_tomorrow (#1,837,092)

Yup. I got a stupid underage drinking charge the day before my 21st birthday. I had a choice to do community service or a harsher punishment. I chose community service in the college town. That is much different from "chain gangs" that are forced labor for inmates.

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BasileusLeoIII t1_j8uwldv wrote

Replying to jaimiedeth (#1,836,989)

i don't think that's the car that got flipped

I'm sure his car was also damaged by this crowd, but the roof and sunroof are pristine in that pic, he's just missing mirrors and has a cracked windshield

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rovinchick t1_j8uzd1q wrote

Replying to irockunow (#1,836,880)

The court will most likely enter a restitution order for the damages that they will have to pay. Their wages/tax refunds/etc can be garnished if they fail to keep up payments.

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RJ5R t1_j8v0z3y wrote

DelllllllCohhhhhhhhhhhh (P&S cue)

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RJ5R t1_j8v16ld wrote

Replying to GooFoYouPal (#1,836,786)

bingo

no jailtime IMO, just community service to clean up the community they trashed

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they need to take the owner of the vehicle to CarMax and buy him/her a comparable vehicle. looked like a Volvo....guess these 2 shitheads will be working night shifts somewhere to get the victim a new comparable used Volvo

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PhillyPanda t1_j8v1i4i wrote

Replying to AlVic40117560_ (#1,837,000)

You’re not usually forcing people to perform labor. It’s usually you choose to perform community service in lieu of a jail sentence. If you don’t fulfill the conditions of your deal, you serve your sentence. If you don’t actively choose community service, you serve a sentence.

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evv43 t1_j8v1jps wrote

Replying to GooFoYouPal (#1,836,786)

Wanna say the same for the kids who car Jack all the Kia’s &. Hyundais, take for a joy ride with the homies. Do doughnuts and completely fuck the car and abandoned it to do the same?

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FriendofMaudie t1_j8v3cal wrote

Actually wondered if any of them would turn themselves in since it was pretty clear they'd get nabbed. Good on them for that, at least.

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TheTwoOneFive t1_j8v9tsh wrote

Replying to AlVic40117560_ (#1,836,902)

Usually community service is fairly lenient in where it is done, usually as long as you have a letter from a Philly nonprofit (or one outside the city stating the CS was done in the city) City how many hours you worked for community service, you're good to go.

I think it's a great alternative to jail for non-violent crimes and is usually a win-win because oftentimes the person performing it chooses something they at least don't hate and there's a decent chance that they will voluntarily get involved in more of it in the future.

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Fatdaddy543 t1_j8vdpqz wrote

I went to high school with the guy on the left, and I gotta say, I’m not really surprised by this 😭

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crash12345 t1_j8vgl0t wrote

You know what pisses me off beyond the car vandalism? All the fucking trash on the ground. I saw it incessantly walking thru Center City Sunday. People drinking Trulys and Bud Lights and throwing it on the fucking pavement. Like literally hordes of people.

What fucking century are we living in that throwing trash on the ground is normalized again???? There are trash cans at every street corner. And you know its a bunch of South Jersey and Delco kids who talk shit about how dirty Philly is, only to come in and litter like pigs.

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sexarseshortage t1_j8vn7de wrote

That must have been a bad hangover.

The thing that stood out to me in the video was that it was a full on student block party on a residential street. Imagine that was outside your house all day and then the fuckers flip your car.

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irishgambin0 t1_j8vnb80 wrote

Winston Wolf: You guys look like a couple of...I dunno, what do these guys look like to you Jimmy?

Jimmy: Dorks. They look like a couple of dorks.

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magicmurph t1_j8vnbdz wrote

They were probably part of the Comcast outage, which covered about half the city. The city where the corporation is headquartered. On Super Bowl Sunday. In which the same city is competing.

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crispydukes t1_j8wc4i1 wrote

Replying to toss_it_out_tomorrow (#1,836,805)

Call me a scaredy-cat, but in today's retribution culture, I'm not sure I want people who have been involved in violence in a public situation like that. We've had too many killings right after people are released from prison.

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rcher87 t1_j8whs6i wrote

Replying to f64Club (#1,839,805)

That’s pretty new, though, and there’s a still a lootttt more red/purple than you’d think. (Historically was working class white, has been shifting more diverse/black and getting more blue with that shift. The wealthier areas of DelCo are also not as sure of a lock for Dems as they are in other surrounding counties, but have also been trending progressive)

I’d call it purple-but-moving-blue. Should be like MontCo pretty soon (solidly blue with pockets of red).

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Snakealicious t1_j8wi8o2 wrote

I have a no license plate car on my block that hasn't moved in about a year, wish they'd come down and flip that one for us so it could get removed. I've had no luck with 311.

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Dessertcrazy t1_j8wkmc7 wrote

Replying to evv43 (#1,839,032)

Sadly, a guy delivering pizzas was shot by kids who tried to hijack his car. Hijacking is a violent crime, not like flipping a car. I walk by where he died every day ☹️

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Fushinaz t1_j8wq3hd wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#1,843,213)

You got to be kidding me. You’re basically saying that these individuals who threw trash on the street away from the bar aren’t responsible for their own behavior. If they left the bar with cans and bottles, should the bar have come down to this street and cleaned up after these people?

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vasquca1 t1_j8wu5rb wrote

They represent the L in Super Bowl LVII

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Fenris_Maule t1_j8wux7o wrote

Replying to itsDANdeeMAN (#1,843,719)

I deleted my comment cause I got spooked because I also know #2 (in video from the article) from my gym as well. Pretty sure the dude could squat 405 though. Kind of ironically, one time him and his cop buddy were talking near me while I was working out and I overheard them laughing about the cop basically cracking skulls... Of course the cop is a wide white dude with a thin mustache from Delco.

Edit: actually now that I think about it I know the guy on the right too. He works out with #2 from the video all the time.

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Electr_O_Purist t1_j8x00dh wrote

One of these guys is definitely going to end up with a lesser sentence than the other.

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toss_it_out_tomorrow OP t1_j8x2co0 wrote

Replying to crispydukes (#1,842,190)

I hear ya. But some of these people don't have any idea where they're going ahead if time for their community service if they're coming right from jail. My aunt lives in jersey on the river and twice a year, guys in their orange jumpsuits come to clear out lots of old wood and trash along the river. They're chaperoned by a bunch o gun carrying cops and I've been there when they're over there doing it. They get a gorgeous day outside and they look at the water and they clean up the area. They're usually there for 10 hours. They get breaks. They do a gorgeous job, and they're very kind if folks walk by and greet them. I'm of the mindset that yes, there are some people out there who are not in any way fit for society for whatever reason, but I also know that *some* violent offenders could have just fucked up badly due to circumstance. I believe a lot can come from rehabilitating people.

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toss_it_out_tomorrow OP t1_j8y6m1r wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#1,844,797)

yeah I spent a lot of years being a "bad kid" but compared to this, I was an angel. My bad kid days were spent cutting school, smoking pot, and drinking beers in the woods. I never destroyed property because I was terrified of being on the receiving end of a whoopin from my parents, which if I think about it, was far worse than being in jail

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calebnf t1_j8yvp99 wrote

They're always from Delco or South Jersey.

Every. Fucking. Time.

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moderately_random t1_j8yyf1u wrote

Scumbags from outside of the city love coming to cause trouble and then complain about the troubles of the city.

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