ForeverNick1 t1_jdaxgbc wrote on March 23, 2023 at 2:05 AM

Leave it to septa to spend millions on what, 10k of lost revenue? What they should do is get their buses to run on time

APettyJ OP t1_jdaxn03 wrote on March 23, 2023 at 2:06 AM

Although the article cites fare recovery, this may be more about doing a better job keeping problem users from accessing the system. That could boost safety and cleanliness, and get more people to use the line.

ForeverNick1 t1_jdb3vdr wrote on March 23, 2023 at 2:54 AM

If they’re more focused on that then more patrols at main stations such as the Frankford or 8th and Market. I’ve seen more fare hoppers at those stations that anywhere when I was riding

AbsentEmpire t1_jdczj35 wrote on March 23, 2023 at 2:48 PM

Or they could install un-jumpable fair gates at all stations to keep the problematics out of the system, and use police to handle keeping them from loitering in the stations and using them as restrooms and drug dens.

adwvn t1_jdb3lsf wrote on March 23, 2023 at 2:52 AM

Of course , neoliberals are not fans of comments like this

markskull t1_jdb6102 wrote on March 23, 2023 at 3:12 AM

Seriously, I'm with you on this.

Is fare evasion REALLY this prevalent? Has it ever been so bad that we needed this for the subway in the last 20 years? This seems most like a solution looking for a problem rather than an actual fix.

There's no way SEPTA is losing even half of what these things are going to cost over 5 years. This doesn't make me think the system is safer just that I now have to waste more time trying to get through the turnstile.

AbsentEmpire t1_jddqxma wrote on March 23, 2023 at 5:43 PM

Yes it's prevalent and blantent. The claimed number is 100% an undercount.

However the bigger issue is not so much the lost fair (which is a problem ), but rather the problems that fair evaders bring onto the system that drivers away more riders compounding the problem and decreasing ridership.