Patco doesn't have them at the actual station entrances do they? As much as I take SEPTA I've never been on Patco at all. I meant that entry from the street should be completely barred to non-paying customers.

I am in agreement that police at the stations and walking the trains is needed/would do wonders. Whenever I see Septa PD sitting in cars outside a subway station I wonder wtf is the point. I was just thinking of a solution that might be easier to implement and wouldn't impact their operating budget as much.