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jberk988 OP t1_itppazb wrote

The hype train has left 30th st station

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RoverTheMonster t1_itppg1x wrote

So exciting! I hope her political ads are filled with data

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roguefiftyone t1_itpq1a7 wrote

All in!! Only high-ranking government official in this city who is competent.

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SgtKetchup t1_itpq37x wrote

>Philadelphia’s charter requires city officeholders resign their posts before seeking higher office.

What's the point of this? Seems like it mostly serves to reduce the candidate pool and assist incumbents (when there is one). Speaking generally, this also means we'll lose 4-5 good city council people, just to elect 1 mayor.

EDIT: Debating whether the specific council members who are resigning are "good" or not does not answer the question here, and should not factor into the debate about this rule existing.

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the_hoagie t1_itpqqze wrote

i wish her the best of luck. she seems to actually care about effective governance.

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alexgalt t1_itpr4la wrote

Replying to SgtKetchup (#217,422)

  1. Running for office is a full time job and you will completely neglect the current one (which leads to mistakes and inaction)
  2. There are many conflicts of interest that arise between doing your current job with the current administration and campaigning to replace said administration. That can lead to decisions made for the wrong reason.

Both of these are bad for taxpayers who want to make sure that everyone is working hard and fairly while in whatever office they were elected into.

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Batman413 t1_itpsiq8 wrote

What's her plan for crime and could we see an additional reduction in the wage tax?

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oliver_babish t1_itptbdm wrote

Replying to SgtKetchup (#217,422)

It is intended to keep office holders focused on the job they have and not the job they want, but it is really stupid and fails to take into account but not everybody has worked in investment banking before entering public life and can afford to run for office without a salary, which sets up messy situations like what Parker is now doing.

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scsg137 t1_itpu0xw wrote

Not going to happen. She is way too competent to be mayor. We need someone less skilled and less on top of things. How else is the status quo going to continue.

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TheTwoOneFive t1_itpus09 wrote

Replying to SgtKetchup (#217,422)

I used to support it but the more I've thought about it over the years, it is really stupid. In addition to the reasons others here listed, it reduces the chance of stronger Philadelphia influence at the state & federal level. We might have had a Nutter governorship had he been able to run in 2014 without resigning, as an example.

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PhillyAccount t1_itpv6we wrote

I'm voting for her, but I think the moderate boomers will vote for Domb and the terminally online moderates will vote for Rhynhart. The ticket will get split and we'll end up with the Democratic Machine candidate (Parker).

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nnn62 t1_itpwj5p wrote

Big fan of her. She seems like she keeps It 💯.

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oliver_babish t1_itpwkv2 wrote

Replying to fritolazee (#217,989)

Inq 9-28:

Cherelle Parker resigned from her City Council seat to run in next year’s mayoral election in the first week of September.

Twelve days later, she became a Harrisburg lobbyist. ...

Aren Platt, a senior adviser to Parker’s campaign, said Parker is highly qualified for her new role, which he described as an advisory position in which she offers guidance to the lobbying firms’ leaders but does not directly lobby state officials.

He added that Parker, a single mother who has a 10-year-old son, needed income after resigning from Council to run in the mayor’s race.

“She is incredibly highly thought of in Harrisburg,” Platt said. “She is a single mother. She does need income. She started talking with old friends at Rooney Novak Isenhour who actually offered her a position.”

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SgtKetchup t1_itpwm36 wrote

Replying to iadtyjwu (#217,494)

Are you saying the point is just to create churn? All city councilpeople are bad and should be replaced?

I don't care about whoever is specifically running now, I am asking generally about why this rule exists.

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ElenorWoods t1_itpxmwy wrote

“Ooo talk to me in debits and credits; they excite me thoroughly.”

  • Marco Malandra
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AKraiderfan t1_itpybyh wrote

Good.

Tired of the Rhynhart fanboys/girls acting like she's the solution to the mayor problem, with little evidence to support it. Certainly she does a good job pointing out the problems at her position (Butkovitz didn't do shit), but that means she's good at being an audit manager, doesn't necessarily mean she has all the tools for the other components of the mayor office.

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KFCConspiracy t1_itpykhf wrote

Replying to iadtyjwu (#218,455)

Rhynhart has to resign to run. She's not on council, but she does have to resign which is an issue here. She's great at her job as Controller.

I like Domb, although I don't agree with him all the time, he seems to be interested in reforms and less in machine politics than most of the lot.

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sixersfan87 t1_itpz9fb wrote

The best and most competent candidate for mayor that we could ask for.

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8Draw t1_itpzeq6 wrote

Replying to Batman413 (#217,736)

Idk where she stands on the actual issue of policing but we've seen her take on the PPD's use of its budget and her criticism is on point.

PPD is gonna throw a tantrum over any mayor we elect but maybe she'll be able to actually rein in their budget and outright disability fraud. Forcing cops to actually show up for work can only help.

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Edison_Ruggles t1_itpzog6 wrote

Fingers crossed, let's go!!! My concern is the average person doesn't know her but as of now she's got my vote.

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a-german-muffin t1_itq1urd wrote

Replying to AKraiderfan (#218,488)

I'll bite, and make this a two-parter:

  • What qualities does she lack generally that would benefit a mayoral candidate?

  • Compared with the current administration (and, for funsies, a hypothetical Republican challenger a la Billy Ciancaglini), where are her shortcomings?

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intrsurfer6 t1_itq1zrs wrote

Are we even going to have a functioning city government anymore? I mean we didn’t before but all of these resignations can’t be good

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Edison_Ruggles t1_itq3f9g wrote

Who replaces her as controller? I do hope she leaves it in good hands!

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AKraiderfan t1_itq47u3 wrote

Replying to a-german-muffin (#218,910)

>What qualities does she lack generally that would benefit a mayoral candidate?

Not saying she lacks it, I'm saying that she's not shown anything besides being a good manager of a team of auditors. Her position doesn't really address the other parts of being a mayor, including aligning an entirely self-serving city council to do good work. At the very least, if we want to point to the last two universally effective mayors (Nutter and to some extent Rendel), they were able to if not get support, get their shit passed working through the council. As far as we can tell from her press history, the difference between her and Butkovitz is that she's all about shining a light on problems, but that's a good feature for the Controller, that could burn bridges as the mayor.

Certainly, you do want some qualities of a bridge burner as the mayor, but you still need to work with the other elected and appointed positions, and while you CAN constantly embarrass them in the press, you're going to find yourself with no support next time you want to fix that police contract.

>Compared with the current administration (and, for funsies, a hypothetical Republican challenger a la Billy Ciancaglini), where are her shortcomings?

Didn't say she had shortcomings, I'm saying we don't actually know what she's capable of, but her fanboys/girls seem to already anoint her the best possible candidate.

A good comp on how i see this are famous food critics. We love a good food critic, telling us where the best restaurants are, and why this dish is really well made, or not well made. We love food critics for their writing, but what happens if a food critic becomes a restaurant owner? Certainly that food critic knows good food, but does that critic know how to hire and keep a staff, procure good produce on a regular basis within budget, plan and setup a good facility? And yes, there have been instances in which food critics are actually found to be good restauranteurs, but plenty of them also fuck it up when their job was more than eating and writing about food.

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Karineh t1_itq669j wrote

👏🏻🤞🏻

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Dent7777 t1_itq75ig wrote

Mayoral Competence is just as important as platform and priority. Being known for competence rather than activism is an asset in mediation, a key part of the Mayor's job.

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randym99 t1_itq9czv wrote

Replying to 8Draw (#218,631)

Her actual report was pretty diplomatic towards the PPD, in my opinion. It objectively quantified numerous shortcomings and areas in need of improvement but didn't make efforts to shit on any particular person, and offered plenty of legitimate reasons why they struggled in certain areas, often mainly staffing issues "post"-COVID. I was disappointed (but not surprised) by how hard McNesby cried about it given it actually showed PPD needs help, not hate.

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Aromat_Junkie t1_itqar0h wrote

Replying to ColdJay64 (#219,037)

Domb was my top choice, given Rebecca remained in her position. they'd be a powerhouse together. Imagine Rebecca in her role and Domb as mayor.

but given this, I'd have to say Rebecca.

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randym99 t1_itqb68j wrote

Replying to AKraiderfan (#219,172)

Even just demonstrating "being a good manager" is better than we've had with Kenney.

Also, do you really think she's a "bridge burner" ? I don't feel informed enough to say one way or the other, but I don't think her PPD audit was "burning bridges" despite McNesby's hilarious next-day comments (where even he acknowledged she made good points). I thought her office's report was very diplomatic and constructive, placing plenty of the fault for the PD's shortcomings on fixable issues like staffing and process, instead of blaming certain people. I don't know how the report has been received by PPD brass or officers, though. If saying anything publicly about PPD even if mostly apologetic while slightly critical is "bridge burning" well then fuck I guess we're doomed to let PPD dictate our politics.

For me at least, I'm encouraged by her seeming to be diplomatic, professional, competent, engaged, and mission-driven. And yes we've only seen her demonstrate that in a few roles but those seem like skills that will transfer well.

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PHL852 t1_itqc7uj wrote

Replying to alexgalt (#217,552)

People not running for office are currently neglecting their positions. I don’t like how the few component people had to quit city council/controller office to maybe get elected. Bad system.

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Plums___ t1_itqftx5 wrote

I’m voting for her for sure. Reading the police audit was eye-opening and she seems really smart and focused on real improvements for the city.

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MRC1986 t1_itqhzmh wrote

Hell to the fuck yeah! Yes, I don't live in Philly anymore, but I lived there for 12 years and had seen Nutter do a pretty damn good job, only for progress to be reversed under Kenney and also Krasner.

Just contributed to Rhynhart's campaign. Not only do I fully support Rhynhart on her own merits, but Philly has got to do anything to keep Helen Gym or Darrell Clarke out of the Mayor's seat.

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BlackWidowLooks t1_itqkjvz wrote

Replying to SgtKetchup (#217,422)

It was originally put into effect as an ethics measure but what it really does is keep the political field full of rich people IMO.

Allan Domb has no problem dropping his council salary to run, of course, but city workers in the field, who are the ones implementing these policies, rules and budgets and seeing how they play out, are firefighters, sanitation workers, clerks, library employees, tech workers, etc who need the paycheck their job provides and couldn't afford to quit and run for any kind of office (even ward offices), despite having the most first hand knowledge of what's working and what's broken.

It requires a ballot measure to make any change to the home rule charter, and council must vote to approve any ballot measure put forward, so somehow anytime it's come up it hasn't passed council....

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AstronomerOpen7440 t1_itqkkr2 wrote

Are there other cities or states that spell it controller rather than comptroller? Especially now decades after most Americans switched to pronouncing comptroller the way it is spelled rather than controller.

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JesusOfBeer t1_itqm1j9 wrote

Honestly. By far the best option. She’s got my vote

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wunderboy t1_itqnuiy wrote

RR: "My platform is 'I'm competent and sane.'"

Me: "Oh, that's it?"

RR: "Yes"

Me: <looks at the sea of clowns offered by Democrats> "That'll do"

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Colbey t1_itqo49u wrote

Replying to cashonlyplz (#221,535)

No, and as an at-large councilperson, she had plenty of opportunity to raise issues legislatively, take votes against councilmanic prerogative, etc. I was a big fan of her but that's eroded over years of her not doing what she could.

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nucleosome t1_itqqdpv wrote

Replying to ramvan (#219,129)

Political ads will be like this until we have more than 2 viable parties and it becomes necessary to elevate candidates above the pack to get votes. Ranked choice is the answer!

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ramvan t1_itqrdv6 wrote

Replying to nucleosome (#221,877)

I’m all for ranked choice, but getting rid of the appeal to emotion is not one of the benefits. It’s just easier to tear down your opponent with some fearmongering than it is to make a cogent and articulate policy argument in a 30 second tv spot. And with even shorter ads on YouTube, it’s just getting worse.

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lordredsnake t1_itr01b7 wrote

Replying to GumshoeAndy (#220,527)

All his opponents need to do is show a picture of the soda price tag on his shelf with a tagline of "wealthy grocery baron Jeff Brown passes 100% of his soda taxes onto his low income customers"

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lordredsnake t1_itr0h08 wrote

Replying to eponymous_bosch (#220,096)

Imagine him as Mayor with veto power over a bill that affects large commercial landlords. He might have good ideas or be an ethical person, but there is no untangling the massive conflict of interest someone with his business dealings has while being Mayor.

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lordredsnake t1_itr1pig wrote

Replying to randym99 (#219,823)

Good take. One could have read the report and interpreted it as suggesting the police are set up to fail and the department needs reform to better support the rank and file. McNesby instead sees everything through and Us vs. Them lens and took it as an attack on the police force as a whole.

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HoagiesDad t1_itr66tb wrote

I’m betting Sanchez is really upset she gave up her council seat.

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mustang__1 t1_itr8jao wrote

Replying to nucleosome (#221,877)

lets be real... she'll be running as a democrat and if she wins the primary she'll win because she's a democrat. The race here is against other democrats and for that she should probably focus on a platform that is not ad-hominin. That said I'd be in favor of ranked choice for local elections...

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Haruomi_Sportsman t1_itreuqy wrote

Replying to alexgalt (#217,552)

>1. Running for office is a full time job and you will completely neglect the current one (which leads to mistakes and inaction)

Would hate for anyone in city council to make mistakes or be unable to act

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flamants t1_itrfvnj wrote

Seems like there’s practically unanimous enthusiasm for her here…would anyone mind giving some background to someone less than literate in Philly politics? I’ve reached my limit of free Inquirer articles so even the key points from the article would be good.

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tet3 t1_itrgpj4 wrote

Replying to alexgalt (#217,552)

If you're At-Large or get a legit primary opponent, you have to campaign, too. But don't have to resign.

I personally think the downsides of having (in-effect) DCC-selected replacement council members, who then are "incumbents" in the regular cycle, and having so many top offices empty out at once, are worse than the downsides that resign-to-run is supposed to prevent.

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AristaAchaion t1_itroi6e wrote

Replying to randym99 (#221,935)

well there’s one party that’s been attacking and undermining public schools for a while now because a population that can’t inform itself will believe what it’s told.

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BureaucraticHotboi t1_itrpvy6 wrote

Replying to PhillyGator561 (#219,883)

The system is set up to make it exceedingly unlikely that large numbers of people vote in our municipal elections. Hopefully that changes. We really need a political reform ticket to run on some basic small d democratic improvements

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rodmandirect t1_itrqkzw wrote

Replying to Trafficsigntruther (#225,810)

It was a rhetorical question. I’m on board with the idea of a network of HD cameras all over the city to track criminal activity. There are too many people getting away with murder, among other crimes, in this town.

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Trafficsigntruther t1_itrqrmj wrote

Replying to eponymous_bosch (#220,096)

He voted against the reduction in the commercial property tax abatement. Yet reducing the abatement increases the value of his existing holdings that are grandfathered under the 100% abatement.

I’m not sure how you can get more impartial?

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lordredsnake t1_itrsb3o wrote

Replying to Trafficsigntruther (#225,788)

The bottlers/distributors pass it on to retailers as a political statement. Some retailers eat it entirely or partially. Jeff Brown has made it his biggest political issue and passes it on 100% to consumers, and puts signs throughout his stores pointing the finger at the city for people's sugary beverages costing more. It's his decision to charge consumers for the entirety of the amount of the tax.

On a completely different note, his stores in poor neighborhoods have THE MOST sensitive self-checkout sensors. If you bring your own bag and put it in the wrong place, it starts blaring alarms at you because he treats all of his customers like criminals.

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AugustusKhan t1_itrsxsn wrote

Like for the election in a month? I thought candidates had to start the process and declare like months ahead of time and its part of the reason we have so many career politicians instead of normal people

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randym99 t1_itrtg46 wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#222,376)

>Wish she would come to the table with some solutions once in a while

that is literally all she has done for five years. that's why she said she is running for mayor, in order to have more direct influence to implement the solutions she has been offering as controller

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gwhh t1_itrw0bf wrote

Does she have the actions to back up her words?

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throwawaitnine t1_its11hs wrote

-RR is so cool, she friends with Malcom Jenkins!

-RR is so cool she should run for mayor!

-RR is running for Mayor <-------we are here

-RR has won the nomination she's gonna be our next Mayor fuck the ppd!

-RR is elected mayor!

-RR is a shit mayor

-RR is running for reelection against nobody

-RR has been reelected

-WE HATE RR, SHES PROBABLY DRUNK RIGHT NOW!

-RR is so bad can we impeach her and replace he with Kenney?

-Throwaweight9 was right but I can't ever admit it.

-I can't wait until (next up and coming city pol) is mayor!

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Trafficsigntruther t1_its5mui wrote

Replying to lordredsnake (#226,181)

> Some retailers eat it entirely or partially

How many of them are local retailers? Zero.

Edit:

> The bottlers/distributors pass it on to retailers as a political statement.

It’s a tax that is close to 100% of sales. How do you expect them to absorb it?

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Trafficsigntruther t1_itsmig4 wrote

Replying to lordredsnake (#228,977)

That a national retailer might want to keep prices consistent across their stores and can spread the losses of selling soda in Philly across the nation. Brown has like two store outside the city so he can’t do that.

> Jeff Brown also pays his workers less than other retailers.

Aren’t his workers unionized?

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lordredsnake t1_itt8szk wrote

Replying to Trafficsigntruther (#229,648)

Brown doesn't just sell soda, he has other goods to spread the costs to. His stores are largely in poorer neighborhoods and I don't shed a tear for someone who wants to charge poor people 100% of a tax to make a political statement.

His stores are unionized, and yet big bad Amazon pays its Whole Foods employees better.

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