Submitted by GooFoYouPal t3_ybm26n in philadelphia
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beeps-n-boops t1_ith4r7c wrote
Moves near a rec center, then complains about recreational sounds.
Sounds about right.
stickyrice215 t1_ith8cb0 wrote
Shits ridiculous. Gtfoh with this snobby ass nonsense.
[deleted] t1_ithb61f wrote
Why do people live in a city if they hate noise? I love city noise. I find it eerie going to bed when it's silent. I love the comforting din of trolleys and buses going by, dogs barking, motors revving, people yelling, horns honking. I sleep best in summer when I can have my window wide open all night long. I get not being appreciative of one single extremely loud and disruptive noise, like a jackhammer right outside your window all hours of the day and night. But stuff like this? Who cares.
GooFoYouPal OP t1_ithfzh7 wrote
>> Player Leonard Dow, 58, of Mount Airy, who works in financial services, said, “I recognize what the neighborhood is saying, but we’re giving them laughter, diversity of age and race. That’s what city life is about.”
I think my Kenzo neighbors say the same thing when they drink White Claws on their steps until 4 AM.
zwinters57 t1_ithj6ae wrote
Chestnut hill residents- "This pickle ball banter is raukus!" Every other Philly neighborhood- "I can't here the gunfire over the roving bands of apocalyptic dirt bike gangs."
jedilips t1_ithjw9w wrote
People in Chestnut Hill don’t really want the city experience… they think they do but what they really want is a very isolated and WASPy experience.
[deleted] t1_ithlwtp wrote
White Claws on the steps until 4am sounds like a fun party!
GooFoYouPal OP t1_ithmonk wrote
Especially when there’s laughter and diversity!
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diatriose t1_ithxix2 wrote
That's my 3rd monocle this week I simply must stop being so horrified
lassymavin t1_iti0y5q wrote
While Chestnut Hill does have more affluent residents, the homes backing up to the courts are not. They are 1000 sq ft row homes. The courts are super active and right in their backyard. I wouldn’t want to live there, but all the activity probably deters the thieves stealing catalytic converters.
GooFoYouPal OP t1_iti25t9 wrote
Ngl, I listened to that audio clip embedded in the article, and there’s no fucking way I’d want that outside my window all day. I’d be losing it too. I have zero stake in any of this, but it’s really, really easy to dismiss peoples’ complaints when you ain’t dealing with it.
napsdufroid t1_iti5lik wrote
Christ, this shit is still going on? These people are total Karens
ComradeNapolein t1_iti9q8b wrote
My parents are dealing with something similar (albeit in the 'burbs). There's tennis courts right behind their house, and the proliferation of pickleball has made the courts a popular spot. Honestly, it's very annoying. The pickleballers start at 8am and play until the sun sets, and while the clack of the paddles is annoying, the real annoyance is the constant shouting during games. Pickleball requires absolutely zero physical exertion, so you can sustain a conversation while playing, but you're not close enough to each other to speak at a normal volume so people just have shouting conversations the whole game. Tennis doesn't have this issue because you're actually running back and forth across the court. It's really hard for me to have sympathy for a Chestnut Hill NIMBY issue, but pickleball might be what makes me sympathetic.
BristorGwin t1_itice8x wrote
Came to say this. Might be most modest block of homes in CH. And the courts are pretty new. Plenty of people in that block were there when the courts were just tennis courts.
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TheMomJawn t1_itih8ly wrote
I grew up in one of those rowhomes that back up to the tennis courts. My parents still live there. Noise never bothered me and that was people playing tennis and kids in the hockey court until after 10 at night. This’ll be an argument for years to come.
TheMomJawn t1_itihn98 wrote
Not true. My parents moved us there bc they grew up in Mt. Airy. We lived in one of the rowhomes by the tennis courts that had 1 bathroom, old ass kitchen appliances and walls that would leak because of the storm drain. We did not have money at all nor did we move there to be more WASPy.
vectorizer99 t1_itiia88 wrote
I'll bet you $1000 I can beat you at pickleball if you use "absolutely zero physical exertion". I'll bring you a heart rate monitor if you don't have one.
GooFoYouPal OP t1_itijikf wrote
Does the pickleball noise irk the folks ?
Roguewind t1_itil64t wrote
These same people complain about the school across the street. If their homes weren’t next to schools and recreation areas, they’d be worth 50% less.
Arkhikernc t1_itimi1g wrote
Dude, you obviously have never played pickleball. It is a sweaty, fast-moving game.
MementoMortty t1_itinyut wrote
The article states that they built the pickle ball court near the homes that already existed, some residents they lived there years before they were built
swampworship t1_itivx0b wrote
Yes. One of my clients lives on the block in question and it is LOUD, even with windows shut. It is all day long as well since the pandemic. Pre-pandemic, it was a few times a day but now it is at least 12 hours of thwack thwack thwack.
starstar420 t1_itixsqi wrote
fuck these people in chestnut hill. people actually using that rec center now tough shit. it was always there just not used
starstar420 t1_itixxxm wrote
lol it is a joke physically compared to tennis
TheMomJawn t1_itjat14 wrote
On my parents’ block? I’m sure they do. My parents have never complained about it. They’ve lived there since the late 80s. This has been an issue for a long time unfortunately.
FeelingsWitchDoctor t1_itjauh7 wrote
Diversity "of age," not actual diversity
Edit: actually just read the article, he says "diversity of age and race." Never mind
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tonberryjr t1_itlcg39 wrote
There's no way that pickleball is as loud as a fucking motorcycle: "The pickleball neighbors say they’ve measured 80-to-90-decibel days on the courts." This isn't about noise it's about control.
Also: Go Phils!
justanawkwardguy t1_itldxt8 wrote
Looking at the map, they really should've just turned the other tennis courts into pickleball courts from the start. Absolutely poor planning on the city's part, but what's new?
PhillyGator561 t1_itlstcg wrote
I thought I saw somewhere that almost all the complaints came from one lady and she tried to get her neighbors to ban together with her. Anyone know if this still holds true?
PhillyGator561 t1_itltwg9 wrote
Edit: Found it in the last post about pickleball in Chestnut Hill
mustang__1 t1_itnz5x3 wrote
While Im normally on your boat here (people move next to an airport the complain about the noise).... This is different because the courts are actually new
mundiff t1_itur3zf wrote
It seems as if they flipped the tennis courts with the pickleball courts it might help out a good bit. Right now the pickleball courts are relatively up against the houses. If the city reoriented the courts this might help.
I haven't seen this talked about much as a possible solution. Also, maybe planting some arborvitae might help with sound when they mature.
We have that soda tax to pay for parks right? :)
GooFoYouPal OP t1_ith2h2b wrote
I don’t live in Chestnut Hill and I don’t play pickleball but I find this dispute fascinating. Some real gem quotes in here from both sides.
I think this is my favorite, for many reasons:
>”When people get upset about something placed in their neighborhood, it’s usually not pickleball but something like safe-injection sites that they don’t want — which I support, by the way,” said Deirdre Dingman, a professor at Temple University’s College of Public Health who plays pickleball at the courts and lives around the corner, undisturbed by the din.