User_Name13 t1_j5tug3q wrote
All these anti-violence programs are corrupt and inept to a certain extent.
These programs go way beyond the mandate of city government.
The city shouldn't have to spend $200 million a year so people don't murder each other.
These programs are attempting to do the work of parents.
A government worker can't ever replace a parent.
No amount of taxpayer dollars can replace the work that a parent does in socializing and raising their child in a way that they respect human life.
We'd be better off spending this $200 million on things that actually improve people's lives.
Instead of burning on $200 million a year on trying to clean up bad parenting, after the fact and the damage is already done.
Bad parenting is the root cause of a lot of our problems in society. Instead of actually addressing the root cause, the city is trying to preemptively put out fires with these BS anti-violence programs that do nothing other than burn taxpayer money with little to nothing to show in terms of results.
Audit all these fake ass non-profits and then shut them down.
They don't do anything.
Parent's should teach kids these values.
The state shouldn't have to do the work that parents should do, this whole thing is ridiculous.
Indiana_Jawns t1_j5u1i25 wrote
For someone who almost exclusively posts about crime your sure do love to shit on attempts to reduce it.
>These programs are attempting to do the work of parents.
No they aren't.
>A government worker can't ever replace a parent.
Nobody is suggesting they should except for your disingenuous strawman.
>We'd be better off spending this $200 million on things that actually improve people's lives.
Sure, let's take it out of the corrupt PPD's budget.
>Bad parenting is the root cause of a lot of our problems in society.
Sure, just gloss over systematic poverty and generational overincarceration for non-violent drug offenses..
Blaming parents isn't a solution. You offer no tangible solution to stop the violence that's happening NOW. All you do it try to assign blame and you even do that badly. Blaming people is not a solution.
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Indiana_Jawns t1_j5u6ptr wrote
Picking the 10 most recent posts, which are still over 30% related to crime (the fact that you used a different tag doesn't change that), and ignoring years of crime posting is a big LOL
Ignoring the rest of the fact that your "argument" holds no water is an even bigger LOL.
User_Name13 t1_j5u7mvb wrote
Move those goalposts more buddy.
You made the claim.
I provided evidence to the contrary.
I guess we'll just have to take your word on it since you won't cite any sources the way I just did.
You made a claim insulting my character and then basically said: "Trust me bro" as your evidence.
Indiana_Jawns t1_j5ubf9u wrote
Pointing out that you used an arbitrary and non-representative sample isn't moving the goalposts, it's pointing out that your arguments are bad.
User_Name13 t1_j5ufjyi wrote
>For someone who almost exclusively posts about crime your sure do love to shit on attempts to reduce it.
That's what you said.
3 out of 10 of my last posts, which is what I've submitted over the past 2 months here, have been about crime.
Is 3 out of 10 "almost exclusively"?
You made the claim buddy.
Provide the evidence to back up your claim.
Should we just take your word for it?
Cuz I provided proof that would indicate otherwise.
courageous_liquid t1_j5ube3o wrote
> The city shouldn't have to spend $200 million a year so people don't murder each other.
man, next let me tell you about our $800M+ police budget that continues to grow every year
ipissexcellence21 t1_j66jwho wrote
A high police budget in one of the highest crime cities in the country?!? I’m shocked!
IdealisticPundit t1_j5txt5i wrote
Better yet - imagine if we put this money towards education. We all know the inner city schools are underfunded. I'm not saying bad parenting isn't a huge problem, I'd just argue a lot of that stems from a lack of availability to a good education.
Maybe also clean up the streets and give people the means to keep their homes looking nice.
MonkeyPanls t1_j5uetm6 wrote
More money for schools is great, but what about the other 16 hours of the day? After-school programs can provide a valuable bridge for kids who aren't getting good guidance at home. My circumstances weren't nearly as bad as many, but free after school programs and the public library definitely kept me out of trouble at a vulnerable time in my life.
IdealisticPundit t1_j5wl53q wrote
I'd argue you're right and what we're saying is one and the same. I grew up in the burbs but the free after school programs were mostly through the school. Those are parts of successful education programs.
MonkeyPanls t1_j5wltr5 wrote
But "the schools" is only part of it. In my town, we had neighborhood public library-, parks department-, and museums programs for pre-teen (10-12) and older. The public libraries were also just open as a place to hang out in the evenings and on the weekends.
burrata-academy t1_j5vgm9n wrote
wtf is up with the paragraph breaks, man
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