IrisMoroc t1_j7tvusw wrote on February 9, 2023 at 11:04 AM

Reply to comment by ddrcrono in Judith Butler: their philosophy of gender explained by Necessary_Tadpole692

>arguing that every single matter of gender is performative puts an incredible burden on her case.

The simplest explanation is that she believes humans are born as blank slates, nature plays zero role in "gender", and that it's all performative. It's all goofy nonsense. It literally rejects all that we know about biology.

It's also operating on a naive mind/body dualism funny enough. It seems to assume that biology would play no role in our personalities which is just wrong. Butler should have done more reading on biology and less on sociology.

But she and her adherents do literally zero testing of their theories ("feminists release groundbreaking new study" is a headline you'll never hear), and tend to make very bold very ambitious claims that are also hopelessly vague. Rather than proving their theories, they go about attacking and shaming people for not believing them. It allows them to never have to interact with reality.

HoneydewInMyAss t1_j7v10cd wrote on February 9, 2023 at 4:42 PM

Lol, groundbreaking feminist studies are published everyday, you kinda showed your cards with that statement.

It's obvious that you don't know what you're talking about, and that you just have some weird issue with women.

Judith Butler represents one iteration of feminist theory. Grind your axe somewhere else.

ddrcrono t1_j7yb5d8 wrote on February 10, 2023 at 7:05 AM

I don't agree with the commenter's approach here, but I've also taken a feminist philosophy class, well before the current age where people are much more willing to defend minor disagreements to the death and even then I got the sense that too many difficult or pointed questions were not overly welcome.

I've also noted that feminists who fall out of line with some of the more popular pillars of modern feminist thought/who are critical of it get ostracized for their differences.

This isn't my main area of study, but I find that it is the area of study where people are the most sensitive and questions are the least welcome, which is particularly unusual in philosophy. I can see why some people are frustrated with the state of things even if they express themselves in a way that makes it difficult to take them seriously.

The people who would make more reasonable, moderate level-headed criticisms are likely too afraid to.

ddrcrono t1_j7yas5x wrote on February 10, 2023 at 7:00 AM

While I think it's easy to provide at least one example to undermine her argument, it is equally easy to provide examples to undermine all / mostly nature arguments. It isn't that the idea of culture/performance is bad, it's the idea that literally every single thing is that I find to be overly tenuous.