Submitted by thelivingphilosophy t3_yt6m03 in philosophy
Reply to comment by JustAPerspective in A cross between an Existentialist and an Old Testament prophet, Danish philosopher Soren Kierkegaard urged his "single individual" reader to follow the "highest passion" of faith rather than becoming one of the stereotyped pseudo-individuals of "The Crowd" by thelivingphilosophy
Just want to point out human memory is notoriously inaccurate, and its completely possible to decieve yourself. Kinda puts a hole in the subjective experience bedrock from my perspective. (Also that definition of knowledge is rather suspect)
Faith appears to me as a tautology. Somthing you need inorder to maintain.
You are 100% accurate but many here don’t seem to understand basic logic as much as they love the mental masturbation of philosophical pondering
||Just want to point out human memory is notoriously inaccurate,||
Most are. Some people are afflicted with videographic memory. Don't assume your experience is universal.
|| its completely possible to decieve yourself. ||
You say this as if people don't lie to each other all the time. If "filtering the conclusions against reasonable considerations" is a factor when listening to others, then it may be presumed to be a factor when listening to the self.
As such, the observation about deceit is not relevant, is it?
||Faith appears to me as a tautology.||
Faith in your subjective experience has been this way. Ours approach differs. ~shrug~ Until you understand how we see it, your perspective is based off of just one way of looking at things, innit?
Since you could be deceiving yourself... might make sense to check.
> You say this as if people don't lie to each other all the time.
You say this as though Special K didn't assume the burden of explaining why his faith stuff was special. But he did. By pointing out that self-deception can play the same role in his secret sauce as it does in the stuff he's declaring inferior, a relevant challenge is made.
>Faith in your subjective experience has been this way.
And so then Special K is faced with explaining why the subjective experience of someone who's concluded that faith isn't special, and is actually rather stupid and toxic, is somehow wrong and invalid.
He doesn't do that, though. Instead, he runs away from the argument and retreats to the safety of the choir he wants to preach to.
>You say this as though Special K didn't assume
Whups... We're not talking about Soren K. - never read him, wouldn't be able to offer any informed insight.
We were talking about faith not being a matter of speculative reasoning, rather of observed realities, in response to a comment.
The person we responded to was less interested in discussion & more impressed with their own absolute vision of reality. Since we found that incompatible with intelligent conversation, we disengaged.
Discussing faith & observable reality, that we're quite happy to kick around - cooperatively, not competitively.
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