YuGiOhippie t1_j1yxc99 wrote on December 28, 2022 at 12:54 PM

Reply to comment by GrymanOne in An Argument in Favour of Unpredictable, Hard Determinism by CryptoTrader1024

All events are contingent.

Not necessary.

This is the shallows waters in which most people drown in determinism.

GrymanOne t1_j209ogw wrote on December 28, 2022 at 6:50 PM

And yet I just had my Intro to Philosophy professor tell me that the very thesis of Determinism is: All events are necessary.

YuGiOhippie t1_j20rn7b wrote on December 28, 2022 at 8:48 PM

Yup it’s a thesis.

But you should ask your professor the difference between necessary and contingent facts.

GrymanOne t1_j20s2a7 wrote on December 28, 2022 at 8:51 PM

We did cover this.

>Observe that saying that event E is contingent is the same thing as saying that event E is “not necessary,” and saying that event E is necessary is the same thing as saying that event E is “not contingent.”
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>So “necessary” and “contingent” are inter-definable. Be aware of that.

In his words, another way to write the thesis would be: No events are contingent.