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DeathByLemmings t1_jdzn77p wrote
Reply to Paradoxically, what makes you unique is your relation to other people. The more robustly we try to identify who we are, the more we become embedded in all others. by IAI_Admin
Very much reminds me of the book, I Am A Strange Loop
leekburn t1_jdzmdw0 wrote
Reply to comment by Efficient-Squash5055 in Seeing Through Kant and Bentham and Arguing the Moral Question of Saving Lives by adarsh_badri
What about religion?
leekburn t1_jdzluqs wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in /r/philosophy Open Discussion Thread | March 27, 2023 by BernardJOrtcutt
Think Errol Musk was fucking around with that idea
BomberRURP t1_jdzktou wrote
Reply to Paradoxically, what makes you unique is your relation to other people. The more robustly we try to identify who we are, the more we become embedded in all others. by IAI_Admin
There is no I without an Other. Hegel was right
Tardis50 t1_jdzj521 wrote
Reply to comment by maniacleruler in Paradoxically, what makes you unique is your relation to other people. The more robustly we try to identify who we are, the more we become embedded in all others. by IAI_Admin
Relationships are never easy, but you never, ever give up on stuff. That’s what makes you an amalgam.
Longjumping_Let4897 t1_jdzdrmz wrote
Hope,
Hope makes you weak, it gives you a false belief that one-day, something good will happen.
The society has made us fool. We were never meant to accomplish greatness in our life. Our purpose was to born-live-die.
But how can you make humans live, there would be chaos if they know that most of them doesn’t even matter. Its hope, always this hope, it’s a drug, a drug which this society forces you to consume, because if you don’t, you will start to see things what you were never meant to see.
The more you give humans this drug, the more they become addicted to it, the more they chase it.
We have consumed this drug so much, that we think, we can’t live without it. We believe we will simply die, or go mad if we don’t have hope.
But that’s not true, it was never meant to be true.
Hope shatters you from within, the moment your hope breaks, you simply fall and you will be at your lowest which you could have never imagined. During that moment you will start to question yourselves, all of your beliefs begins to shatter, the only question that comes to your mind is- Why, Why Me?
Hope is like devil's apple, we eat it because we believe it makes us strong, but what we don’t realise that at its core, the presence of its poisonous seeds. But we still eat it till we start to consume that seed too and it starts to poison us, choke us. But do we stop, NO, we still keep eating it, because that’s what devil wants, that’s what society wants. And we keep on eating it till the poison consumes you, and now even we can’t save yourself.
How is the life without hope, one may ask. It’s not beautiful, it’s not heaven. But what it really is, it’s the Reality, the world that humans were meant to be in. The world where you live only to fulfil your duties without asking for something in return, where you are at least live in peace because you know, in the end you don’t matter to this world, and this world was never obliged to give something to you in return.
Do, humans will ever live without hope, Never, because that’s what makes us humans. We would rather live a beautiful lie rather than live a harsh reality.
But now I will not cling to this Hope. I once had hope, but after it has always betrayed me, I have realized how evil it is.
Epinnoia t1_jdzd28x wrote
Reply to Paradoxically, what makes you unique is your relation to other people. The more robustly we try to identify who we are, the more we become embedded in all others. by IAI_Admin
You're unique!! Just like everyone else! ;)
WrongAspects t1_jdzbh0r wrote
Reply to comment by Xavion251 in Scientism Schmientism! Why There Are No Other Ways of Knowing Apart from Science (Broadly Construed) by CartesianClosedCat
You are so confused it’s not even funny. Look at how you are twisting the world to back your anti science stance.
Xavion251 t1_jdzazg1 wrote
Reply to comment by EatThisShoe in Scientism Schmientism! Why There Are No Other Ways of Knowing Apart from Science (Broadly Construed) by CartesianClosedCat
>The fact that even you admit this scenario is impossible is the exact problem. You cannot derive knowledge via an impossible process.
Taking real things to a hypothetical (but practically impossible) extreme is actually a very good way to logically work through something.
>Even the claim that all logical statements are true is not something that is proven, it is assumed to be true because it has not be demonstrated to be wrong.
It is impossible to understand anything (including science) if logic does not work. So we can't really even have a discussion on whether or not logic works, all conversation necessarily assumes that logic works.
>First you are assuming an infinite regress of provable premises,
No I don't. Eventually all premises boil down to direct, shared experiences that everyone (or almost everyone) can agree on. So does science. So does everything, really.
kitri22 t1_jdzah8v wrote
Thanks Kant, I'll drink to that
Xavion251 t1_jdzafia wrote
Reply to comment by WrongAspects in Scientism Schmientism! Why There Are No Other Ways of Knowing Apart from Science (Broadly Construed) by CartesianClosedCat
>Aren’t they experiences?
All experiments are experiences, but not all experiences are experiments.
>Do you think science doesn’t involve reasoning?
All science involves reasoning, but not all reasoning is a part of science.
>Do you think mathematics is not reasoning?
Mathematics is logic, not necessarily reasoning depending on definition. Even so, not all reasoning is math.
>Do you have knowledge of things you never experienced?
Nope. Everything must be experienced in some form. If I learn something from reading a book, I still had to experience the book in some way (usually reading via eyesight).
BerkelMarkus t1_jdzaa8m wrote
Reply to Paradoxically, what makes you unique is your relation to other people. The more robustly we try to identify who we are, the more we become embedded in all others. by IAI_Admin
How is this paradoxical in any way? The more clearly you try to define cold, the more clearly that definition is tied to heat.
Plus, this is a completely obvious result from social networks (not the Faceshit and Twitshit nonsense) but from mathematical models as far back as the 40’s. We can individuate; ie identify, people based on their social network.
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hideX98 t1_jdz4ovp wrote
Reply to comment by maniacleruler in Paradoxically, what makes you unique is your relation to other people. The more robustly we try to identify who we are, the more we become embedded in all others. by IAI_Admin
One of the first times I was high on mushrooms I had this (from my point of view) incredibly deep realization that I don't actually know anyone, only how Ive related to the things they've said and done.
pisstakemistake t1_jdz4ad2 wrote
Reply to comment by PinealFever in Paradoxically, what makes you unique is your relation to other people. The more robustly we try to identify who we are, the more we become embedded in all others. by IAI_Admin
I don't know why you are quoting that nobody /s
Efficient-Squash5055 t1_jdz3lae wrote
Reply to comment by adarsh_badri in Seeing Through Kant and Bentham and Arguing the Moral Question of Saving Lives by adarsh_badri
Yea my pleasure. Very nicely written. I’d never heard of professor Taurek before. I can’t believe he even shared his theory out loud! What difference do numbers make he says????
Uh.. only that pain, or suffering, or violence is multiplied that many times! What a blind spot in his thinking.
jetoler t1_jdz3i5g wrote
jetoler t1_jdz3h9a wrote
Reply to comment by ProudKingbooker in Paradoxically, what makes you unique is your relation to other people. The more robustly we try to identify who we are, the more we become embedded in all others. by IAI_Admin
I think it’s 2 halves coming together. People and your environment shapes you, but also I believe there’s an unchanging core to everyone too.
adarsh_badri OP t1_jdz2s5f wrote
Reply to comment by Efficient-Squash5055 in Seeing Through Kant and Bentham and Arguing the Moral Question of Saving Lives by adarsh_badri
Thank you for reading the essay! Kudos to 'It's not easy being human'. Lots of living, we gotta do--on everyday basis.
Lenguenyal t1_jdz21eb wrote
Reply to Paradoxically, what makes you unique is your relation to other people. The more robustly we try to identify who we are, the more we become embedded in all others. by IAI_Admin
Don’t conform to other people’s standards. You won’t like those people in the eventual future.
DiploJ t1_jdz1wau wrote
Reply to Paradoxically, what makes you unique is your relation to other people. The more robustly we try to identify who we are, the more we become embedded in all others. by IAI_Admin
You have to relate to stand out.
Efficient-Squash5055 t1_jdz1pgz wrote
Reply to Seeing Through Kant and Bentham and Arguing the Moral Question of Saving Lives by adarsh_badri
Good article. Regarding Prof. Taurek, I think he’s full of shit with that theory numbers don’t count. What a dummy!
Personally I don’t think morality can ever be qualified in strict binary (this or that) terms across the board. Certainly there is a central section where moral response would be near universal in agreement.
A lot of it has to do with circumstances being defined in narratives and narratives are less objective. Or when sticking to facts; facts not accounting for nuance.
It’s not easy being human 🤷♂️
I think a heart genuinely centered in love and compassion will come as close to proper moral response as one can.
Zondartul t1_jdz0c1m wrote
Reply to Paradoxically, what makes you unique is your relation to other people. The more robustly we try to identify who we are, the more we become embedded in all others. by IAI_Admin
Not something I thought of before, but obviously true in hindsight. Uniqueness is, by definition, a relation object A has to similar objects B1...Bx. The relation being that A is only one in that group that has a certain set of properties.
So you can he unique among all the people, but you can't be "just unique".
Now, whether the culture of "be unique" and the need to distinguish yourself from other people makes sense, is an entirely different discussion.
Gregrom26 t1_jdyznku wrote
Reply to comment by maniacleruler in Paradoxically, what makes you unique is your relation to other people. The more robustly we try to identify who we are, the more we become embedded in all others. by IAI_Admin
My senior quote was “I’m the living embodiment of everyone I’ve ever known” or something like that, we really are just those who have taught us everything
Acrobatic-Fox9220 t1_jdztw3a wrote
Reply to Paradoxically, what makes you unique is your relation to other people. The more robustly we try to identify who we are, the more we become embedded in all others. by IAI_Admin
You are everyone you’ve ever met in your life….Ancient saying