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vax4good t1_ja7lihd wrote

I would start by putting up a “Private Driveway: No Parking or Trespassing” sign before escalating for the well-meaning idiots who are just returning them to where they found them in a self-perpetuating cycle. I don’t see any reason you couldn’t add “all vehicles (cars, scooters, bikes) will be towed at user’s expense” even if you can’t actually enforce it.

More importantly: request geofencing that can actually be enforced. And in the meantime report each violation via 311 if you aren’t already doing so.

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klauskervin t1_ja8t8w5 wrote

I asked a few questions about impounding these if you find them on your own private lot. You can definitely impound them and charge a storage fee as long as you follow state law found here:

Towing operation and storage: https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/legis/li/uconsCheck.cfm?yr=2012&sessInd=0&act=110

Private parking lot: https://www.pacodeandbulletin.gov/Display/pacode?file=/secure/pacode/data/067/chapter212/s212.115.html

Your local municipality may have additional policies for impounding.

The key is you need to have visible signage, clearly marked private parking spaces, and have a policy for storing and releasing vehicles.

It seems that unless people are leaving these in the area designated a parking lot where the signage is posted that it may be hard to impound these the same way you would a motor vehicle.

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klauskervin t1_ja7wan4 wrote

Is it legal to impound these until the company pays for their release? I find these on private property all the time and I'm considering doing this if I find them on my own property.

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the_real_xuth t1_ja8c64v wrote

It is no different from when someone leaves any other item of value on your property. It's not yours and there is a legal procedure for dealing with it. If you try to do so in a manner that is not legal then that puts you in far greater legal jeopardy than the person who left it on your property.

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klauskervin t1_ja8hpu0 wrote

How does impounding work in PA? Is a scooter considered a motor vehicle? Do you need a towing permit? I've been towed before and laws seems to be very skewed towards the impound.

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UnaffiliatedOpinion t1_jaanj71 wrote

I'll go out on a limb and say that big parts of the reason tow companies can operate the way that they do is that they have the budgets to lobby politicians and retain better lawyers than most of the people they're towing. Not to presume too much about OP's situation, but I doubt they're willing to pay enough in legal fees to fight off Spin's corporate lawyers over a minor inconvenience getting out of the driveway.

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throws_rocks_at_cars t1_ja888wp wrote

This is such an extreme overreaction lol

Just report them and put a sign up that says “please don’t park scooters here because then I can’t exit my driveway without moving them”.

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klauskervin t1_ja91xcv wrote

Well if you find several of these in your private spot every morning what other option is there? Calling the company 5 times a week is not practical.

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tobesbalones t1_ja9tlvd wrote

“Well meaning idiots” they are inconsiderate dickheads like the rest of the assholes that leave these things everywhere and the private company using public space in anyway they want. These scooters suck and are constantly in the way of individuals that need full access to sidewalks and ADA ramps. This is one of the least egregious instances of this but these provide very little public good.

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