TrippTiggers t1_jaj072m wrote
Reply to comment by timesuck in As construction begins on Atlanta’s “Cop City,” Pittsburghers are concerned about an allegedly similar local project by LostEnroute
Go apply to be a cop and be the one that shows the path for change.
timesuck t1_jaj2ds0 wrote
Ohhhhh ok. Great idea. I’ll get right on that.
TrippTiggers t1_jajjpyy wrote
So a correctional officer was killed in a weapons training. And they kill people all the time too. I think you anger is misplaced.
just_an_ordinary_guy t1_jal0h6d wrote
Good cops who go against the grain become dead cops.
anonymouspoliticker t1_jak09mr wrote
Well, I think the implication would be for you to apply to work for the Pittsburgh Bureau of Police, not some department 3000 miles away. Unless you're planning to move to LA? Or is there an example here locally?
timesuck t1_jaklz4h wrote
just_an_ordinary_guy t1_jal0biq wrote
Get his ass.
anonymouspoliticker t1_jakpv6h wrote
See, you should've just started with this instead of pulling something from the other side of the country. Now your point has credibility!
just_an_ordinary_guy t1_jal0epp wrote
Shut the fuck up, we all know that the corruption is in pretty much every single department, and especially every single big city department. Don't be so obtuse.
anonymouspoliticker t1_jao0mwx wrote
That's not very nice, neighbor. Local governments set up and are responsible for the actions of their own police departments, and there's tens of thousands of them. How can you assume there are problems in one because there are problems in another? What other bureaucratic or corporate structure or occupation is held to that standard?
just_an_ordinary_guy t1_jao87nr wrote
Yeah, I know it's not very nice. That was the point. We're assuming the same problems in one based on another because it's pretty well documented that it is a systemic issue. Every single time they go looking in any police department in the nation, these problems are found. Every single time, to varying degrees.
burritoace t1_jaqruix wrote
Are you kidding? Basically every public institution is treated this way. Fuck off with this bullshit.
anonymouspoliticker t1_jbiapt6 wrote
If DC city council decriminalizes all violence, is the city-council form of governance systemically corrupt?
If a public university in Florida abolishes their office of diversity, equity, and inclusion, do you think less of the University of Pittsburgh?
Or public transit. Or state government, mostly. Or healthcare- I think Pittsburghers have good experience with identifying problems with UPMC and not baselessly projecting them on, say, AHN.
The only public institution held to this standard I can think of is the judiciary, and they are closely intertwined with police anyway.
TrippTiggers t1_jaj3uue wrote
Got any more?
Zenith2017 t1_jaj5qxt wrote
How come all the past well-intended police haven't changed anything, if that's all it takes? Surely you wouldn't say that this guy would be the very first person to join the police force with positive intent to create change from within. How come it hasn't worked?
TrippTiggers t1_jan357k wrote
Change takes time. Interesting though all this comes up with only one party in charge for the last 100 years. Also corruption plays a part too, however much like the number of key board warriors on this platform, you’re talking about something neither you or I have worked in. So our opinions don’t really matter.
Zenith2017 t1_jan4i35 wrote
Well, since cops' evil and tyrannical actions very much affect us as citizens, I do feel our opinions matter. What do we do otherwise, roll over and let it happen?
The whole thing is corrupt from tip to toe. Don't forget that cops originated as slave catchers, and their role as protectors of the owner class continues to this day. You can't build on a rickety foundation, the whole thing's gotta go and start over.
TrippTiggers t1_janf4k3 wrote
I’d be curious to read your solution. Who would you call if someone breaks into your house? Or someone attacks you or your family…pick your reason to call the police.
Zenith2017 t1_janoq9i wrote
Well, it's not like the police are going to be much help if that does happen. They don't prevent crime, and they only solve around 11% of what they investigate. Seems like not a good solution to me
TrippTiggers t1_jaoyio6 wrote
Ok so what’s the alternative sending in a case worker? I mean look let’s be realistic who’s the solution?
TrippTiggers t1_jaxeicm wrote
So you got a solution or just keeping status quo?
Zenith2017 t1_jaxs8az wrote
My solution to if someone breaks in my house? I'd make my presence known without aggressing, which deters most. If they insist on looting my house, then I'm going to prioritize personal safety over property
TrippTiggers t1_jb04ce7 wrote
So you’re going to do nothing and allow crime to run ram-pit, got it.
Zenith2017 t1_jb0j1ar wrote
What else would I do? Attack them to risk injury or death over... What, my TV? A laptop? That's so painfully stupid
ram-pit
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