cooldude_4000 OP t1_jdid4d6 wrote
Hard to tell if this is a reasonable ask or not. I'd like to know what "security measures" he's demanding, but it sounds like he just wants to come off like a tough guy.
Vesty t1_jdier2r wrote
Yeah I can’t really think of any significant security differences between what the park does and say the stadiums. If they’ve taken steps to address the fence line I don’t know what else he could be asking for. I can’t help but think this is re-election “tough on crime” grandstanding.
Ready_Panda t1_jdiqxc8 wrote
He wants the entire park covered by a net to stop drones
the1999person t1_jdix2mb wrote
Actually a dome would be better. Something that blocks out the UV rays so you don't have to worry about being sunburned for being at the park all day.
Clerk18 t1_jdjneps wrote
It would smell so bad!
the1999person t1_jdjofjx wrote
It already smells bad, people sweating in the heat. Pissing or shitting themselves in line for the Raging Rapids.
Aggravating_Foot_528 t1_jdixc36 wrote
And we have experience with snow domes over some Pittsburgh neighborhoods
anonymouspoliticker t1_jdj85xd wrote
I think there's one really obvious significant security difference between the stadiums and the park: the park had a shooting inside it a few months ago.
Sunglassesatnight81 t1_jdmf4ko wrote
And at the stadiums they actually check your bags etc.
StarWars_and_SNL t1_jdixnx4 wrote
The park security has definitely decreased in the last few years.
It used to be that all bags had to be checked, etc. The process to get through the gate is a breeze now.
Not that gate security would have done much to prevent last year’s violence.
Vesty t1_jdj1uqn wrote
Because they started using the new style detectors that don’t require bag checks. Disney and other parks also use them these days. Even the Pirates just announced they’re switching to them and don’t require bag checks anymore. Don’t see the DA threatening to shut down the Pirates opener.
LockelyFox t1_jdjgnmp wrote
I recall from when the shooting happened, a bunch of people who worked there said those detectors either didn't work properly or the employees aren't trained to use them.
milkmanrichie t1_jdizezp wrote
They did upgrade the metal detector, which was supposed to stream line the process and be safer. I can not confirm if it is in fact safer.
HomicidalHushPuppy t1_jdig2nz wrote
I think the bigger issue is he's not law enforcement nor is he a legislator, thus he has no authority to make demands. It's one thing if they treated this like a nuisance bar, which we have laws to deal with. But he's looking to sue them for not bending to his will, which is overreaching.
Excelius t1_jdj7b99 wrote
Zappala has managed to accumulate a seemingly unusual amount of power for a District Attorney.
The DAs office has been funding security cameras all around the county for years. I don't even understand how that is even a thing that a DA has a budget for.
jmcburney3589 t1_jdlg0ho wrote
Asset Forfeitures are used for many of these programs.
SparklesLuvsScotch t1_jdlvi32 wrote
This!
HomicidalHushPuppy t1_jdj9a30 wrote
Well when they're negotiating plea deals left and right, and/or just cutting people loose, I guess they're saving costs on time that would've been spent in court. Then, you have to spend the money or have your budget cut next year.
Only random speculation, and slightly sarcastic
ImplementBrief3802 t1_jdjephx wrote
Plea deals are how they keep their numbers up.
RedModsSuck t1_jdkw9ht wrote
> I think the bigger issue is he's not law enforcement
You have a serious misunderstanding of law enforcement in the state. He is the chief law enforcement officer in the county.
the_real_xuth t1_jdl1kkp wrote
This is a really twisted and non-standard usage of "law enforcement". His purpose is to prosecute crimes. No police officer is supposed to answer to him professionally. Quite the contrary, the police are supposed to be independent of the prosecutors and investigate suspected criminal cases without bias while the prosecutor is by definition in an adversarial role. The shitty thing is when police and the DA's office see themselves as partners which is where all kinds of problems crop up.
RedModsSuck t1_jdmz0lk wrote
Apparently the state and just about every DA disagrees with you. This same statement appears on the website of dozens of DAs in PA:
"The District Attorney, as the chief law enforcement officer of the county, is mandated by law to sign all bills of indictment and conduct in court all criminal and other prosecutions in the name of the Commonwealth."
The only one twisting things is you.
the_real_xuth t1_jdnklqc wrote
Yes, this is their method of PR.
RedModsSuck t1_jdsqpuz wrote
You do know that DA offices often have their own officers, right? That redneck that shot the jogger in Georgia had been one. That is why the DA tried to cover up the case.
the_real_xuth t1_jdua0rp wrote
I don't know about Georgia, but certainly not in Pennsylvania (nor Allegheny county).
omgwouldyou t1_jdl4tw5 wrote
Could you cite the law being violated when a private business doesn't implement a policy change the DA of a county recommended to them?
Do you also think that Zappalla could shutdown his local Giant Eagle because they refused to carry his favorite brand of chips after he requested they do so?
RedModsSuck t1_jdmybum wrote
I did not say that he is has the authority to make Kennywood do anything, I was just correcting the statement made by the poster.
ballsonthewall t1_jdiraig wrote
let me know when they actually do something to a nuisance bar lmfao
HomicidalHushPuppy t1_jdityn0 wrote
A North Side nuisance bar was shut down early last year, a South Side one closed late last year when their liquor license got revoked, and there's one in Westmoreland (iirc) that's just been closed down temporarily. Don't mess around with the PLCB/PSP's BLCE.
Regardless of action/inaction, my point was there are laws in place to deal with problematic places, whereas the Kennywood issue appears to be Zappala just having a tantrum because someone didn't do what he wanted. He has no legal authority to just order people around.
SparklesLuvsScotch t1_jdlvp5z wrote
Right!?!? I'm looking at you, Aces & Deuces. . .
TheSpeedyBee t1_jdiji5m wrote
Not really the DAs place to make such demands, reasonable or not.
DaRiddler70 t1_jdiio9x wrote
He's asking parents not to dump their shitty kids at the park to cause trouble, but he's doing it by making Kennywood deal with the problem.
It's called trying to solve a problem by the symptoms.
PersonalAd2039 t1_jdix2ol wrote
Other parks have dealt with this by limiting and significantly increasing prices of season passes. removing local discount tickets(school tickets, Shop n save etc.) and removing food packages.
One of the parks stated they had to increase prices above local day care costs.
xxdropdeadlexi t1_jdj3o53 wrote
Are people dropping off 4 year olds at Kennywood? The daycare statement is confusing because if they're old enough to be dropped off, they're too old for daycare.
PersonalAd2039 t1_jdj4u7x wrote
You don’t come to the mon valley often
Eta
jafomofo t1_jdkrmuv wrote
no, kennywood started this mess by doing those season passes so now the park is filled with unsupervised teenagers and its not a place you would actually want to go unless you are a teenager.
Aggravating_Foot_528 t1_jdiiuca wrote
this is his M.O. Make all sorts of demands, forces companies into making changes, and then takes the credit.
ScratchMoore t1_jdie8vh wrote
True. That’s like the most important part of this entire issue, and they don’t report it.
Aggravating_Foot_528 t1_jdixlo6 wrote
His answer is always "security cameras" and major screening at entrances.
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