People get shot or stabbed at that 7-11 occasionally. This isn’t a big deal.

The general public should not be concerned.

This is just RVA.

Half our murders (or so) go unsolved, every year. Which means there are 1000's of murderers in a city of 200,000. Obviously taking some liberties, but you get the idea.

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Citation

https://www.nbc12.com/2022/01/13/93-people-killed-richmond-2021-least-41-cases-remain-unsolved/?outputType

I think you missed the point. I believe the suspect is known and there is no danger to the public from people who were involved.

I just want the RPD to make a statement, not just in this case, but in all cases where they know that the suspect is no longer a risk to the public. Shit, they didn’t even say whether or not suspects were at large with respect to several murders over the past few weeks. Is it so difficult to say, “The suspect is <known/unknown> and/or <at large/apprehended>”?!?

I’ll make it a Google form that any officer can fill out in 15 seconds.

The cops checked out in 2020, they're not coming back anytime soon.

to be fair, they didn't do much prior to 2020 either

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Shit happens move on

They get nothing from that and risk opening themselves up to liability.

It’s a terrible idea to comment on any ongoing investigation.

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Kind of weird OP that you’ve made 3 posts about this one particular shooting but none about the dozens of shootings in Gilpin/Mosby/Hillside/etc that occur every year. You live in a city. Shit happens. If there was any ongoing danger then you would know about it.

If 911 actually answers in the city right now that would be a step in the right direction currently. Calling 911 and holding for 30 minutes is incomprehensible

No police force anywhere does this. Why qoukd you expect RPD to? They're too busy framing people for mass shootings and inflicting brain injuries on innocent autistic kids to do anything helpful.

we have murders regularly all over the city. certain areas have multiple murders happen over the course of months or even weeks. those areas don't get constant updates after every murder, so why is this one supposed to get more shared info & statements than other areas/neighborhoods get?

I am one of the people tht criticizes our police constantly & will gladly point out lots of reasons I believe there needs to be major changes, but the inability to give daily updates about one specific murder isn't something I'm gonna jump behind when there are much bigger communication issues tht RPD has problems with.

When seconds count, the police are only minutes hours away.

Your safety is your own responsibility. Stay strapped.

This is some entitled and vastly ignorant shit, lol.

Unfortunately that doesn’t help in medical emergencies, but I catch your drift.

Not praising our police department, but I really do think if they genuinely thought that this was an ongoing danger to the public and we were all at risk of being murdered if we set foot near that area, they would have said something. Safe to assume no comment about risk level is a good thing.

>Kind of weird OP that you’ve made 3 posts about this one particular shooting but none about the dozens of shootings in Gilpin/Mosby/Hillside/etc that occur every year.

It’s not weird at all. I don’t have residents of any of those neighborhoods hitting me up for information, nor do I have information on the vast majority of those shootings which indicate that there is additional information which could be probably be made available to the public without risk to an investigation. And I don’t think you’ve done a very thorough job of reviewing my posts about shitty police communications. I don’t limit my criticism about this to one area of the city.

>You live in a city. Shit happens.

What a refreshing change of perspective. /s

It’s almost as if you don’t want the police to do better.

>If there was any ongoing danger then you would know about it.

Now you’re getting into comedic territory. That’s hilarious, particularly given the years of lies we’ve heard from the RPD. Oh, you were serious about that?

You live in a city. Shit happens.

Of course it doesn’t. But it does help you avoid becoming a defenseless victim.

Meanwhile, pressers are held to spread lies. It’s laughable that you use this argument in light of the VAST amounts of commentary the RPD has made over the past two years.

In general, I agree with the ongoing investigation commentary thing, however please explain how an investigation would be compromised or any additional litigation risk beyond what the RPD already seems comfortable with would be incurred by stating: “Our investigation continues and we believe the any risk to the public as a direct result of this incident has passed.”

Look at this dork offering to be a volunteer cop

You’re kidding about the first sentence, right? Police departments are constantly stating whether or not someone was apprehended, if a suspect or person of interest has been identified and if there is any risk to the public. It happens daily all over this country.

Did you know that RPD has people who are paid to do these sorts of things? I mean, it’s actually their job. And at least one of them was a well-known journalist in Richmond prior to joining the RPD.

This is one of the reasons why I expect more.

Did you know that RPD has people who are paid to do these sorts of things? I mean, it’s actually their job. And at least one of them was a well-known journalist in Richmond prior to joining the RPD.

This is one of the reasons why I expect more. It’s baffling to me that people think this is an unusual expectation. Sure, on the order of the list of problems with the RPD has, it’s certainly lower on the list of priorities. But there are people we are paying to do this very job, and only this job.

Fucking meh bro. Shit like this happens all the time. Just because it’s ~the fan~ doesn’t mean that it’s immune from violent crime.

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Lol OP when did you move to Richmond?

Yea you sound like a volunteer cop. Mind ya beeswax

But it should be a big deal. I hate that it’s normal life.

That's probably due to their lack of dispatchers, they are extremely understaffed as well as other jurisdictions with regards to dispatchers. There's not enough people to answer the phones.

Because deep down, americans are at least 2 generations deep into the sanctimony of national brands. 7/11 is supposed to be a safe haven for convenient trash we all have a right to. I mean heavens, i might stop there with my kids in back of my late model suburban on the way to a rams game. If, for instance, a local shop with gaming machines and other cultural elements deemed undesirable to screen dwelling yuppies attracts violence, shut er down. Mcdonalds/exxon a lil hot? More cops! Protec american industriousness! As if they didnt used to camp out there... Being close enough to our benevolent benefactor vcu for students to wander across probably exacerbates the affront to a sense of security service as an inalienable right. Its also on one of the most beaten paths for commuters, people naturally feel a small sense of ownership over their regular haunts and travels.

Hopefully the /s bits are obvious but there ya go.

We need more police. With better training. Who are paid more

You want an update, there is no update. When RPD makes an arrest on this, the public will be the first to know. RPD has great pics of the guy and the car used, he WILL be found. Remember the shooting last week on W. Broad St. RPD had great pics of the suspect vehicle used. The car was found within days, and the shooter was arrested. RPD put out the arrest on TV, saying he was arrested. When the 7-11 shooter IS caught, RPD will also be out the arrest.

Boring.

First of all “no risk to the public” suggests they are a risk to a different group of people which is othering some poor black people so you can assuge your own paranoia and anxiety.

Second of all you don’t know why a cooperating witness or co conspirator or whoever would come forward. Maybe they fear for the life.

What if someone involved in this incident shoots it out in the street and clips a civilian. Now the cops own words are back to haunt them.

I can’t believe you got me defending rpd lol this is just common sense.

And yeah they make up terrorist attacks to justify going to war against their own citizens over protests of mass destruction but dude also lost his job and fucked his career up on that one. Trust Stoney and get balogned

That's probably because the avg salary for a dispatcher is $35K

What? Thousands of murderers? Yeah, you are taking “some” liberties with logic and with math.

It’s strange that so little information has been released and that local media are barely covering it. I don’t track details of murders in the city so I can’t the coverage of different than usual. Like the OP this one caught my attention because it happened in the neighborhood where I live.

Yes. More guns are the solution.

That mixed with being over worked. Henrico is going through the same thing right now.

well, let's say 50 a year go unsolved. Times that by 10 years, that's 50 murders unsolved. Math is easy on this one. Chances are, if you live in the city, someone you pass on your daily has killed someone.

Shootings are 3-4 times the amount that actually die, so in the people you pass everyday, there are 3-4 times the amount of people that have shot someone.

EDIT: Bad math, I was thining of the more than 100 murders we have per year, times 10. Thank you for the correction.

Honestly I think it's kinda cringe when people freak out about crime in the white parts of the city but don't say a word when something happens in Fulton and carver and mosby, etc.

It's a city. Guns are legal. Ergo people are gonna shoot each other. You're just pearl clutching cause you're white and want the crime to go back to the black parts of the city "where it belongs"

Richmonds violent crime rate isn't particularly bad. According to us news, we are below average. And that's with our stats being higher than they should be since we don't include surrounding counties like most metro areas (cities are parts of counties in every state except va)

Yeah, pretending bad people don’t exist and choosing to be defenseless because you refuse to accept reality is the solution. You can choose to be a victim if you want, but it’s none of your business if others choose differently.

Makes no sense.

> “I don’t have residents of any of those neighborhoods hitting me up for information.”

Are you a fucking landlord? Get fucked.

You are boring

They could have an option for life threatening push one and an operator holds a non life threatening call or the dispatcher says hold to answer and ask if it's life threatening.

Alternatively, the State Police could run assist on dispatch, we have a Governor, between our Mayor, Governor, and Board of Supervisors this is not something as taxpayers we should accept any excuse for btw.

Richmond City is experiencing the longest wait times.

My grandmother and aunt were dispatchers so I know the three shifts offered to them and how their schedule works.

Yes they are under paid, however paid more than rural counterparts, where you have to wait for volunteers for fire and emt after an emergency call.

Sigh.

First, there aren’t 50 unsolved a year. You just made that up. Even if there were, 50 a year doesn’t equal 1000 over ten years. You said “math is easy on this one,” but I think you actually had a great deal of difficulty with 50 x 10. And even still, having 50 unsolved on a year over year basis — which there are not — does not mean that those continue to go unsolved forever. Also, even if there were 50, which there aren’t, you have no idea who does the murders. You can’t assume it’s one person per murder, that’s stupid. You can’t assume they all live here, either, that’s stupid. You also can’t assume that they would stay here after a murder! So, to sum up, you made some shit up, did basic math wrong, made several illogical assumptions, and then said something really inflammatory and wrong. There are NOT thousands of murderers walking around and you do NOT walk by one every day.

Your comment is atrocious and ought to be moderated, frankly.

All my homies stay strapped

Yes

Why dont you contact them?

Ummm... I cited my source, and it's consistent. We don't just cap existence at 10 year chunks, there are murders from 20,30+ years ago. You were right I was sleepy on the math, still adds up over time. Well if we presume murderers are coming in from outside the city (that's 'stupid,' most murders are committed by people the victim knew,) so if there are other cities in the US, it's safe to presume if all these people are also moving after they murder, an equal number are leaving their city and coming here after their murder.

I'm sorry, but yes, the city has countless unsolved murders, feel free to fact check how many unsolved murders have been in RVA over the past 50 years.

You keep saying 'assume,' and 'stupid,' yet you have not cited a single thing, it's all your uncomfortable cognitive dissonance over the city having murderers in it. Just don't piss people off is my advice.

The psychological trauma is immeasurable. I've had some acquaintances go in peppy and full of life, only to come out shell shocked after a short while.

What are we gonna do? Call the city and complain?

They prolly can't even hire anyone right now, they cut the entire Human resources staff a few weeks ago.

according to overwhelming (and I mean overwhelming) evidence, guns are the problem.

Whatever bud

boring

You sound hyper-focused on the public safety in your own geographical vicinity. Let me guess, you live <2 blocks away from Broad & Meadow in the Fan?

Actually that's why we vote people into office. We can contact our Supervisor, Council Member, Mayor, Gov, etc.

They are hiring btw.

I agree, just try getting through to any of them. If they hire through Richmond City, it may say hiring, but there literally is no human resources department. They may have left one or two people if I recall.

The real problem is money and job stress. Obviously anyone who wanted that job figured out how bad it sucked and wasn't worth it, otherwise it would be in demand. I would totally consider doing it if it wasn't so tied to police, and it paid well. It's a great way to serve the community, but the community has to take care of its people. Living wages keep people where they are qualified to be, in jobs they are good at and may minimally enjoy or find fulfillment in.

The best thing to petition for, if you get an audience, is higher wages, and not by a little bit.

People need to take some fucking reading comprehension courses. Where did I cry at all about the murder? I didn’t, I said the communications suck.

No, I have friends who live literally less than 50 feet from where it happened. Cops told them one thing about what and when things would be communicated, but do another.

Prick.

Always

Precisely !

Seriously, take some reading comprehension classes. I’ll summarize the post using small words:

I’m not worried at all. I have inside info which tells me so. I think that information should be shared widely by an official source. RPD communications suck.

Eat a dick and get a job😂

Thank you, professor!!

I’m with you on the second point, which has been proven over and over and over. The third point is actually a function of the second (higher qualifications and requirements), so I agree with you on that point as long as the second thing happens.

I’m not sure the first is true, however. If the job is scoped to leverage the higher skill set 90% of the time, I don’t know that you need more police. I think about all the parking/traffic enforcement/control, busting of pot shops, and general over policing which occurs and think about how those jobs could likely be done by others, with police involvement when warranted.

One of my theories is that the public is conditioned to assume that the police are the answer to far wider set of problems than would be true IF the construct of how to achieve/maintain public safety were different. It would take a pretty significant restructuring of our systems, and there doesn’t seem to be a huge appetite amongst the power players to do so.

So I’m supposed to supervise them now? That’s another thing someone else is getting paid to do. I’m stupefied that people are actually arguing against the idea that people who work for RPD should actually do their job. They should do it for this shooting as well as any other shooting where a suspect was not immediately apprehended.

What would you say if a police department issued a statement like this: “A violent prisoner escaped from a maximum security prison today. Please call us if you have any information. We have no other information to release at this time.”

boots on ground matters for deterrence. We also need more community policing which is a related thing

Why are they "hitting you up for information"?

If you should know more about this situation than most people, you've left that out. Why would people be asking YOU for information about this?

So what, you expend the same amount of energy to come to bitch on Reddit? You’re like the one person besides the victim’s family still thinking about this.

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Exactly.

Hey. Putting words in italics doesn’t make them true. Switzerland would have similar gun violence stats if access to firearms was the root cause of our problems. There are progressive policies that can fix those problems, but shredding the Constitution just a little bit ain’t one of them.

Why are you making this about race?

Well, that’s pretty shitty, isn’t it?

I think there are a lot more people who care than you believe. I think THAT sucks.

Go to your county board meeting or the council meeting if you're in the city, it is not that hard to be frank getting in front of them.

County and City Officials are not impenetrable.

So the cops showed up about 2 minutes after the shooting. The crime itself might be normal but gd was it frightening and absolutely not cool. No point in making it about anything other than a murder, Richmond is a tiny ass city. I’m just confused about how providing an update is bad, how many of you have been less than 100 ft. from a murder at 11am? You all sound like yuppies who like to bitch on laptops all day, and provide zero community support. I’m pretty sure all of the people, whose family members have been pointlessly murdered, want updates.

This never happened, nobody was put on hold and the cops showed up in less than 2 minutes.

The general public was right fucking there

They got there in 2 minutes. Stop spreading misinformation, you didn’t call the cops. When have you called the cops in an emergency?