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dragononawagon OP t1_jdm6b33 wrote
Okay if you were a pretty smart 7-10 year old…
Humans and animals have a part of the brain called the “lateral habenula” (LHb). The LHb is really important for a lot of things, especially for helping us recognize when things are upsetting or unpleasant and for learning how to avoid those things; it’s also important for helping us recognize when good things we expected end up not happening, called “negative reward.”
In some people, their LHb has too much or majorly altered activity, which can contribute to mental health problems like addiction and depression. Lots of doctors and scientists that are familiar with the LHb think that figuring out how we can change LHb activity back to a more normal pattern might be an effective treatment for these problems, especially depression.
In order to figure out how to do this, we need a better understanding of how the brain cells in the LHb communicate with each other and with other parts of the brain. Brain cells use lots of different types of molecules to send messages, including endocannabinoids (eCBs).
eCBs are basically specialized fat molecules that have specific receptors all over the brain. Type 1 cannabinoid receptors (CB1) are the target of THC from marijuana, for reference. Very little research has been done on understanding eCB function in the LHb. However, one study showed that blocking CB1 receptors in the LHb could make rats behave in a way where they appeared to be less depressed and less anxious- that is super interesting because if we give rats that same drug by an injection to the whole body (instead of just the LHb), it makes them more depressed and anxious. So the effects in the LHb seem to be opposite to what would be expected from other parts of the brain!
But why? What kinds of signals are eCB molecules sending in the LHb? That was the purpose of the study - to understand how eCB signaling is regulating cellular communication within the LHb, at a cellular and molecular level. Generally, eCBs decrease neurotransmitter release.
They found that in the LHb, eCBs seem to decrease GABA release, as expected; decrease glutamate release (in some contexts), as expected; but also increase glutamate release in some other specific contexts, which is opposite from their normal predicted function. They found this unexpected increase required cannabinoid receptors on astrocytes, and hypothesize that this mechanism could potentially increase LHb excitation and explain the backwards behavioral effects of cannabinoids mentioned above. To be determined in future studies.
readytofly68 t1_jdmvr8o wrote
not the asker but thanks for this!
Sir_Vexer t1_jdu4ybs wrote
Interesting. Thanks for this. So, does that mean the increased glutamate release in the LHb would cause depression?
I stopped using weed cause I felt like it induced bipolar-like symptoms in me. Made me excited for a few days then extremely depressed for a few days. When I saw this I thought "Yea, that checks out".
dragononawagon OP t1_jdummdi wrote
It doesn’t necessarily tell us that for sure, but it supports that hypothesis yes. And there’s some behavioral data out there from before this study to support the idea:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29887035/
But there’s also still the decrease in glutamate release in some contexts too. A lot more work has to be done to figure out what the 2 opposing systems are doing and how it ultimately could contribute to depressive-like behavior (or not).
Always take everything with a grain of salt (skepticism is part of good science), but there have been associations between chronic marijuana use and depression. Whether habenula is involved or not remains to be tested.
SLKNLA t1_jdlqlgm wrote
If I’m reading this right, it looks like they’re saying cannabis can make you anxious/depressed by suppressing glutamate and GABA production in your brain.
Edit: I was not reading it right.
dragononawagon OP t1_jdohrrf wrote
Not quite! Cannabinoids generally suppress neurotransmitter release, but they found some unexpected opposite effects in this brain area, which has been implicated in depression. Happy to discuss specific questions!
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Sir_Vexer t1_jdmpnpd wrote
That checks out. I stopped cause it made me depressed.
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Sir_Vexer t1_jdkpvw1 wrote
Gunna need that old ELIF