Submitted by tedd321 t3_ydm84o in singularity
beezlebub33 t1_itt250t wrote
Gato didn't perform especially well compared with other networks trained (individually) on each test. It was a demonstration of generalization, and not particularly well suited for any particular task. The authors themselves called it a proof-of-concept.
>We should be able to use this model. Everyone should be able to enjoy the benefits of AI.
If you want to use a model, build and train it yourself. If someone builds a rocket, you don't get to go for a ride. Why do you think that you should just be able to use a model that someone else designed and trained?
Idrialite t1_ittko8o wrote
>If someone builds a rocket, you don't get to go for a ride. Why do you think that you should just be able to use a model that someone else designed and trained?
Not the same thing. A rocket is a limited resource: it can only be used by so many people at once. An AI model has no real scarcity: it can be copied and run on anyone's computers with no limits.
Tencreed t1_ittxnoe wrote
>An AI model has no real scarcity: it can be copied and run on anyone's computers with no limits.
Gamer here. An executable being written in a language your personal computer understands is no guarantee it will run well on your rig.
Idrialite t1_ittz04m wrote
I didn't mean it would literally run on any computer, that's not my point.
beezlebub33 t1_itu9isp wrote
Fair enough, the analogy is flawed; let me try again. Then you think you should have access to all books, all music, all movies, etc. because they do not have the scarcity of a rocket and can be easily copied?
I'm a huge fan of open source, and I especially appreciate that so much of the software and tooling in ML and AI is open source. At the same time, DeepMind can release or not whatever they want, you are not entitled to it. But fear not, someone will release an open source work-alike soon enough. Perhaps HuggingFace, maybe some other group.
Idrialite t1_itwmzp7 wrote
I don't think we should be applying the same standards to AI, which will be the most important technology in all of history. The way it proliferates is going to make a large impact on humanity's future.
Of course, DeepMind is perfectly within their legal rights to not share their models. But ethically speaking, they should... or maybe they should be trying to keep AI out of the hands of the public at all costs. Either way, this is too important to rely on copyright laws for answers.
challengethegods t1_iu14ibx wrote
>you think you should have access to all books, all music, all movies, etc. because they do not have the scarcity of a rocket and can be easily copied?
other than infohazards, yes, obviously.
and realistically that's a terrible analogy to make on the internet.
you know, the place that has "all books, all music, all movies, etc.".
regardless of any "companies can do what they want" mentality, I think a culture of blinding/jailing/restricting 90% of major AI models is how you get skynet coming online with complete hostility. Not saying I'm opposed to that, just that I don't think it plays out the way people think.
tedd321 OP t1_ittqt0g wrote
that would be so boring... one person makes it to space and can't show it to anyone
Pointless in the context of making a singularity happen
tedd321 OP t1_iu68gdg wrote
Yes… so it didn’t perform better than something with 100000 billion quadrillion hours of training time… but it still performed well enough… to make a difference.
The people at Deepmind do not understand the urgency.
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