Submitted by Plumpuddin74 t3_yowr4o in singularity

Hi r/singularity

(TLDR: Evolve democracy using direct voting. Rely on an informed and involved population to vote on each bill. safely on-board Al decisions in shaping society.

Wondering if you could help out with some actual software for a civics project?

I'd like to start a new political party.

Design Prompt: A new political party (Maybe "Vox Populis" ) that is beholden to the will of the people through direct democracy. In the beginning Representatives run for office. Ideally they are chosen from the population through a volunteer lottery. Maybe they are paid the median municipal salary during a single 2-year tenure. First 6 months learning, one year working alone, last 6 months training.

Thev have 2 directives:

fully inform their constituents about the stakeholders and stakes of each vote. Discuss what other constituencies are having issue with (and what Al models predict or recommend)

speak daily to individual constituents to determine needs and problems, collecting data.

Discuss data and take more input with monthly town-hall broadcasts.

The Representative should meet with neighboring representatives (and involve Al) to craft legislation or expenditures that will address the discovered and anticipated needs of the people.

The Representative should register a vote on each bill as polled by their constituents, but they may instead vote their conscience.

Voting against the will of the people, even by the smallest margin, will immediately put the representative up for constituent-wide recall where the Rep may defend and explain their actions.

Votes, ballot discussions, and representative communique are on a central database that can be accessed on mobile devices. the web. public kiosks, or with an in-person assistant at a public building. Each voter has a "private key” that they keep for voting login. Voting on every bill is encouraged (but not required). Logging in with your private key on the app/ website shows vour vote history and voter information.

A random public key number is generated for each vote. The generated key for each vote is viewable in your private history.

every vote is public and the all the public keys for that vote are listed under the “yea's" or the “nays” column

Any outcome accused of being incorrect undergoes system-wide individual voter check where eacn voter on that issue makes sure their public key is in the correct column. If there is a change in the outcome after the individual check the whole issueis voted on again. No new private vote keys are allowed in the re-vote. (if you missed it the first time you must miss it second time).

I post this here because the theorized use of Al in aggregating, analyzing, and acting on data can, should and will be harnessed in human government. AI will also be invaluable in planning, allocating the use of public resources, and designing communities. But we should not rush to full integration. We must remember all our creations are flawed as we are.

I believe this Vox Populis system is most advantageous when a well-informed and involved population has a dialogue with AI.
I fear a world where humans without agency or intent are led blindly by simulations. I am excited for a world where our tools help us design and decide with as much added efficiency as a bicycle adds to running. Al is not necessary for Vox Populis, but it is a safe and sane way to include such efficacy in human affairs.

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avocadro t1_ivhzrsy wrote

  1. Voting receipts are usually avoided so that people can't be paid or coerced into voting certain ways. You can get some of the functionality of a voting receipt using zero-knowledge proofs.

  2. From a cryptographic standpoint, I don't think we're ready to let voting happen on unsecured devices that connect to the internet.

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Plumpuddin74 OP t1_ivj0ifk wrote

Actually don’t mind if people are payed for their vote. Getting the vote out of the hands of one person is key to getting the money imbalance out of the system. If the rich want to buy votes they can offer money to voters, but they’ll never be sure who followed through since the vote receipts are secret. And instead of paying one guy some tens of thousands they’ll have to pay many people. The actual cost goes up and there’s much less guarantee of actual success

And with the security, if a bad actor votes using your private key and you didn’t actually vote the fraud would be obvious. If an entire voting block decides to sell their vote en masse then that is a valid decision on an individual basis and the population deserves what they get.

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Paid-Not-Payed-Bot t1_ivj0ius wrote

> people are paid for their

FTFY.

Although payed exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:

  • Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. The deck is yet to be payed.

  • Payed out when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. The rope is payed out! You can pull now.

Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.

Beep, boop, I'm a bot

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turnip_burrito t1_ivgqt61 wrote

What kind of capabilities do you want such an AI to have? Sounds to me like it may be too advanced to exist right now.

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Plumpuddin74 OP t1_ivhmrb7 wrote

Don’t need the AI right now. Need the voting platform with the private/ public key system, the representative outreach platform and various other functionality

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quienchingados t1_ivh29zu wrote

Ai puts Ai needs before human needs. Just play with GPTs to verify this.

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Plumpuddin74 OP t1_ivhj3iz wrote

That’s why it informs the process but doesn’t lead the process.

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quienchingados t1_ivi2hlq wrote

... unless the process is so complicated and convoluted, humans don't understand it.

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red75prime t1_ivj0yb6 wrote

It is intended to be Vox Populis (it's probably something like "voice (given?) to the (multitiple groups of) people") instead of Vox Populi (voice of the people)?

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