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Frumpagumpus t1_j5d58kj wrote

another thing I would say is science/bayes theorem by itself is really no basis for any kind of moral philosophy. it has problems almost as bad as religious appeal to power/authority. not to mention is/ought problem.

freedom or fairness might be. so i think as bad as NAP principle is libertarians at least make a good faith effort whereas scientism doesn't even start from any kind of grounding.

pursuit of truth is somewhat interesting as well, though i think pursuit of falseness is equally interesting, as well as pursuit of computational complexity i guess XD (but that's a level deeper than just empirical experimentation)

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MootFile t1_j5dc8wa wrote

What do you mean by morals.

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Frumpagumpus t1_j5de98i wrote

capitalism = capital can be acquired through free trade

you seem to be positing that "pro scientism" will somehow distribute capital via a means other than trade, some form of distribution, which would presumably require making some kind of moral judgement of the form person y deserves amount of capital z.

but i don't see how scientific method has anything to do with making such moral judgements.

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MootFile t1_j5df5yl wrote

Utilitarianism tries to frame it into a science based measurement.

Scientism is about solving problems. People starving is a problem. Morals are up to the community.

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Frumpagumpus t1_j5eh5e7 wrote

it seems to me the incidence of effective altrusists is higher amongst ultra high net worth individuals than ordinary people.

(and objectively they seem to have achieved quite a lot e.g. bill gates&rotary club vs polio)

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