Submitted by Creepy_Toe2680 t3_10ozjk9 in space
Creepy_Toe2680 OP t1_j6how4h wrote
Reply to comment by corsairealgerien in NASA tested new propulsion tech that could unlock new deep space travel possibilities by Creepy_Toe2680
uhh looks like i have to do some research and math here soo..
i am gonna use the second one (but i don't know if it is talking about the vehicle or the wave.)
distance from mars (130,000,000 km)
speed of detonating engine = 2km/s
so, 130000000/2= 65000000 seconds = 752.31481481 days or 2 years and 22 days.
not sure don't quote me on this.
edit: YES I knew it i was right that i was wrong!
wgp3 t1_j6iebfv wrote
Unfortunately that's just all wrong. The part you took from the second source isn't even about the rotating detonation engine but the detonation pulse jet engine. Maybe the exhaust velocities are the same but I doubt it. And the figures used aren't even the actual exhaust velocities. That's the speed of the Shockwave from the detonation and the speed of the wave from deflagration.
But rocket engines use something called a de laval nozzle. Designed for the flow to speed up to Mach 1 at the throat and then go supersonic out the back. So the exhaust velocity of a typical rocket engine is already in the several km/s range. For example, rs25 has an exhaust velocity of about 4 km/s. Twice that of the figure you used for the detonation engine.
You can't easily just take an exhaust velocity and calculate how long a trip to mars would take. The exhaust velocity is not a limit on how fast the rocket can go. It's more about showing its efficiency. Higher exhaust velocities are more efficient. This is also measured in a term called Isp, specific impulse. Which is why ion thrusters are so efficient. They cam have effective exhaust velocities of about 40 km/s.
With effective exhaust velocity (which I'm not sure 2km/s is it for an rde) you'd at least need the initial (or wet mass, aka fully fueled rocket mass) and final mass (dry mass, mass after burning all propellant) to get the total delta v from the rocket equation. That would give you a rough idea of where the rocket can get you. The more delta v the faster you can get somewhere.
danielravennest t1_j6ii1ae wrote
That's not how rockets work. Vehicle speed changes as your run the engine and produce thrust (push). Earth and Mars already are in orbit around the Sun. To get to Mars, you have to change your orbit so the other end crosses Mars' orbit at the same time Mars is at that point.
corsairealgerien t1_j6hppu5 wrote
2 years and 22 days? But the original quote said it takes 6 months to get to Mars at the moment?
Creepy_Toe2680 OP t1_j6hpwar wrote
various factors affect this such as vehicle size and many more
maybe my calculation is wrong.
buffetcaptain t1_j6hup2p wrote
The distance to Mars changes depending on the respective orbits, at the closest point it's about half that.
Testimones t1_j6lv9yr wrote
No no, you have it all wrong, the planets are all fixed to transparent spheres rotating around Earth, even the old greeks knew that!
LegitimateGift1792 t1_j6mynsv wrote
I gave you an upvote even though you did not use the obligatory /s. It was the transparent spheres i liked the best.
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