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Realistic-Plant3957 t1_j9ahjki wrote

In short - To say this Daytona 500 was a milestone race was an understatement — for Stenhouse and for NASCAR. Daugherty, who left the track earlier Sunday with an eye irritation, is the first Black car owner to win the race and Jodi Geschickter joined Teresa Earnhardt as female car owners to win the Daytona 500. Kyle Larson was collected in the race-ending crash after he jumped out of line too early in an attempt to win the race. Reigning Cup champion Joey Logano finished second in a Ford for Team Penske, which won the race last year with Austin Cindric. But, no, it’s just par for the course, just used to it and come down here every year to just find out when and where I’m going to crash and what lap I come out of the care center,” Busch said. “

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TampaTrey t1_j9aiqez wrote

If it had went to one more OT Ricky would not have won. His car just ran out of gas after the finish, as he didn’t even have enough to do a celebratory burn out.

Way to go Ricky 👍

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Zlifbar t1_j9aroym wrote

You know things are jacked up when someone one 500 mile race is longer than the rest

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Liquidwombat t1_j9b3uag wrote

You know… I was thinking the exact same thing lol I’m sure they’re referring to the period of time it took to complete the race but it’s still a really stupid headline.

Edit: turns out you were more right than you knew, and I was totally wrong. Somehow a race has overtime (which doesn’t make any sense because the race isn’t timed) and the “overtime” resulted in extra laps being run, so it was in fact a 530 mile long 500 mile race.

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TechieZack t1_j9bd3fj wrote

It was a good race, but not great IMO.

Ricky is a good driver - happy he bagged it!

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Liquidwombat t1_j9bg02p wrote

I mean… What would make the most sense would be for the race to be over when its predetermined distance has been completed.

No reason to make the race longer. If it ends under a yellow flag, it ends under a yellow flag. If they have to red flag it, resume at the distance they were at. I don’t see how this is complicated or controversial

Then again, the pure intentional chaos at the end of recent Daytona 500’s should have been nipped in the bud and not allowed in the first place

Next thing you know they’re going to add an extra hour on to the 24 hours of Le Mans because somebody crashed during the final hour. Or maybe we can add an extra stage to the Monaco rally if one stage is too muddy. I know let’s make the Baja 1000 an extra 60 miles long just in case somebody breaks an axle! 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

but if they do want to add laps on (which still doesn’t make any damn sense) why not just call them “extra laps”

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George_H_W_Kush t1_j9bg5eo wrote

This is the first plate race I haven’t tossed a little money on wrecky for shits and giggles in years…

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lord_pizzabird t1_j9br6dh wrote

They kept crashing, extending the OT.

It's really dumb system that IMO ruins races like this. I get why they've done this, but this is worse than having anticlimactic yellow-flag checkers. It's better from the audience perspective, but worse for the quality of the sport itself.

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Half-Mayonnaise t1_j9brtoq wrote

I know nothing about racing or Nascar. Can someone explain why you would ever need OT in a race? Doesn't the first person across the line just win? The possibility of an exact tie seems improbably low so there must be something I don't understand.

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gamedemon24 OP t1_j9bts8v wrote

It’s not about ties. A caution flag in NASCAR takes up about 5 laps for them idling around the track while the incident is cleaned up. If this happens with like, 2 laps to go, they won’t just have the race reach its scheduled distance and end with the field under caution. They’ll extend the length of the race so there can be a green-white-checkered: a 2-lap restart where the field takes the green flag, goes around to take the white flag, and then comes to the checkered flag. If another wreck happens before the white flag is reached, they’ll try again. This can lead to the race distance being extended multiple times.

In this case they had reached the white flag at the time of the final crash, and because of this the race was ended as soon as the caution flag flew. Stenhouse was the leader at that point, and was therefore declared the victor.

I really hope that was at all concise! I work within racing so I’m happy to answer any other questions.

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Half-Mayonnaise t1_j9bugnv wrote

Thank you for the explanation! That's really helpful and makes a lot of sense. Ending a race under caution would be so anticlimactic. Extending it makes more sense. I had always thought that races could end up caution but maybe that's for different leagues like F1 or something.

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lessermeister t1_j9buu4a wrote

Absolutely moronic way to call a winner. Let them race to the effing checkered flag at least.

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Obi_Uno t1_j9c0wey wrote

Didn’t they previously race to the checkered flag (and more widely raced back to the caution flag) but it led to really dangerous situations?

Ex: cars going full speed near disabled vehicles with a driver still on board

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jonredd901 t1_j9c2qy5 wrote

He took 48 more lefts than anyone ever.

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Rush2207 t1_j9c629l wrote

Normally yes they do but nascar has an overtime rule in an attempt to make every race end under green flag conditions. if the race would end under yellow they do a two lap shootout to decide the race. If the leader makes it to the final lap before they wreck again then the next flag ends it.

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JCNoles t1_j9c6pcn wrote

Yes. I don't remember if this is exactly how it went, but imagine it was Green on lap 201, Yellow 202-210, and Green 211-212. Two overtimes with a long caution in between led to 12 extra laps.

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walterpeck1 t1_j9c6xd7 wrote

> I had always thought that races could end up caution but maybe that's for different leagues like F1 or something.

Pretty sure NASCAR is the only pro race series that does this. All others can end under caution like you were thinking.

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jwk90 t1_j9cjy6m wrote

Correct, they changed the rule in 2003. They used to do that until a car was stopped right next to the start finish line and nearly got hit at full speed while racing back to the line.

Also track workers were out on hold until the track was clear, or put in danger if they entered the track while racing back to the yellow.

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gamedemon24 OP t1_j9d2ir7 wrote

It used to be a LOT easier to end under caution than it is now. The rules have changed multiple times to give them the most opportunities to end under green. But here’s the reason why a caution on the last lap ending it makes sense: during last year’s All-Star Race they did away with it and experimented with being able to line them back up no matter how last second the wreck was. Ryan Blaney was literally ten yards from the checkered flag when the caution came out. He crossed the line literally less than a second after the caution waved, and (understandably) had no clue it even happened and thought he won. He unfastened his window net to celebrate and prepare to exit the car…only to be told he had to restart again. So now you’ve got a car with an undone safety device who has to race more.

Would that exact situation happen every time? Probably not. But you can see how last last moment cautions lead to clusterfucks. There’s gotta be a cutoff somewhere and the last lap is a pretty generous place to put it.

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EddieGrant t1_j9d30tc wrote

But the issue then have is the cars behind the wrecked cars would have to slow down, and unlike F1 or other race series, there's no sector flags, just full course cautions, so it's either slow the whole field down, or none at all.

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jyar1811 t1_j9dnkpp wrote

And a one car team to boot. Almost unheard of in NASCAR. Well done

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