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VincentNacon t1_j7tooru wrote

That's a lot of words for "Hey guys! ME TOO!".

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C0rn3j t1_j7tppci wrote

A chinese web browser that refuses to let people see the source code, no thanks, there are secure alternatives.

It's not like Opera is anything unique, it uses the same base as Google Chrome (Chromium).

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signed7 t1_j7tr3k9 wrote

How? I thought Microsoft has exclusive licence for OpenAI's stuff?

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Fusional_Delusional t1_j7tr5qu wrote

Opera is that one business in town your uncle says is a front for the mob that wants you to know they’re still open despite street construction and an apparent lack of customers for the last 20 years.

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Suitable_Alfalfa5756 t1_j7tr998 wrote

ChatGPT this, ChatGPT that... What's next, "People around the world is asking themselves... did ChatGPT just got them pregnant? Know the shocking truth for only $9.99". 🙄

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Harami98 t1_j7tx5cx wrote

No i would not trust any other company then google or Microsoft to handle such powerfull ai there are also both security and privacy reason.

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SmartFreelancer t1_j7tx9rb wrote

The emergence of Chatboxes has forced search engines to evolve to remain relevant.

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frakkintoaster t1_j7ujbsu wrote

Why do people keep saying this? Sure, for some trivia type knowledge it might be faster to ask the chatbot, but we already have this with things like Alexa and Google Assistant. When I'm really searching for something I'm looking for different sources, and I try to determine the best solution from everything I've read or watched if videos are helpful to the context. I'm not going to be satisfied with a single text answer from a chatbot.

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UnordinaryAmerican t1_j7ujhto wrote

[2016](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera_(web_browser)#Acquisition_by_Chinese_consortium), apparently

> In 2016, the company changed ownership when a group of Chinese investors purchased the web browser, the consumer business, and the Opera Software ASA brand. On 18 July 2016, Opera Software ASA announced it had sold its browser, privacy and performance apps, and the Opera brand to Golden Brick Capital Private Equity Fund I Limited Partnership, a consortium of Chinese investors.

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frakkintoaster t1_j7uqcbt wrote

I never claimed that overall, I just mean in the context of searching for information. Sure, ChatGPT can write me a whole essay and Google search and Alexa can't do this, but I'm never searching for an essay to be written for me from search engines in the first place. I see these chatbots as a whole new complimentary thing rather than a search engine replacement.

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delrioaudio t1_j7v1gfu wrote

If it can get people to use Bing, anything is possible

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zardvark t1_j7whb84 wrote

Chinese AI ... what could possibly go wrong?

Thanks for the heads up so that I can avoid it.

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jerslan t1_j7wweua wrote

TIL Opera is still a thing...

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jerslan t1_j7wwk58 wrote

Yeah, but then all the "big browsers" copied most of those features and eventually did a better job of it.

I didn't mind Opera so much 20+ years ago, but it just never gained enough traction for me to care about as a user or developer.

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azimov_the_wise t1_j7wxv5b wrote

I want an option without machine learning. Someone will eventually figure out how to corrupt it.

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frakkintoaster t1_j7x3j5k wrote

I find that messed up... Calculators perform busy work for us, which is fine, but in writing an essay you have to think and formulate your own thoughts, which is part of the essence of being human... If we automate this what are we really doing here?

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frakkintoaster t1_j7x3ram wrote

I use ChatGPT almost daily. My comment was specifically in the context of asking something like the capital of a country or something. The functionality ChatGPT does I don't see as a search replacement but something entirely different I don't think we've quite comprehended yet.

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BarryBosseran t1_j86f96n wrote

Here are also American shareholders, according to your perception Opera is a Chinese-Norwegian - American browser LOL

Greenhouse Funds LLLP 2,100,397 1.82%

J. Goldman & Co. LP 1,265,220 1.10%

Toroso Investments LLC 1,261,481 1.10%

FIL Investment Management (Hong Kong) Ltd. 1,040,129 0.90%

Park West Asset Management LLC 1,026,900 0.89%

Roumell Asset Management LLC 895,087 0.78%

Genesis Investment Management LLP 720,796 0.63%

APG Asset Management NV 644,305 0.56%

Discovery Capital Management LLC 444,810 0.39%

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zardvark t1_j870jbv wrote

If you had bothered to read the attachment to the OP's post, you might have noticed:

>Parent company Kunlun Tech is based in Beijing ...

The developers may be in Norway, or Poland, or where ever, but the project is owned by the ChiComs. And since they own it, you'd better believe that the browser will conform to their demands.

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ThinkCry t1_j87aifw wrote

The cinema company AMC, short for American Multi-Cinema, has been around for over a century and is headquartered in Leawood, KS. In 2012, Beijing-based Dalian Wanda Group became the majority stakeholder. Do they censor the movies?….

Spotify- Chinese investor Tencent Holdings Limited LLC bought 10% of the company back in 2017 while Spotify bought 10% of Tencent’s holdings. Does da CCP censor the songs?

Facebook offered to buy Snapchat for $4 billion, they opted out. Instead, Tencent Holdings bought a large share of yet another tech giant. The Chinese Investor owns about 14% of Snapchat’s shares. And they say TikTok is pure evil😹

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zardvark t1_j87mg22 wrote

There is no need for AMC to censor anything. Hollywood preemptively self-censors their content, because they know full well that if they don't, their movies will be banned in China. Having said that, you can bet that you will never see an AMC board member say, or write anything critical of China, or the CCP.

NBA players, businesses, big tech and politicians all prostrate themselves and kiss the CCP's ass for a chance to stick their snouts into the CCP's trough and none of them will will risk doing anything that would interfere with their corrupt relationship.

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