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sanjsrik t1_jcgtfoz wrote

Wait? People actually use these stores?

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ghaelon t1_jcgy75f wrote

Replying to sanjsrik (#2,246,648)

I thought Amazon was liberating me from the chains of having to actually drive and visit physical retail stores. And they want me to go to their fucking store now?

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jenksy t1_jcgysbz wrote

A fine but no requirement to wipe the data, is just the cost of doing big brother.

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Cykon t1_jch7cmg wrote

Replying to sanjsrik (#2,246,648)

I've been to a whole foods with the walkout tech. We can debate for days about what kind of data they're collecting, but it really was a much better grocery experience

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BlissfulGreen2 t1_jch9y73 wrote

Are the store employees prohibited from recognizing the faces of customers? This is nonsense.

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mazza77 t1_jchacvg wrote

Replying to jenksy (#2,246,920)

Sorry but how did they think that they will get recognised?! Really it’s like saying I went to renew my passport and they used my photo ! Jesus this is getting out of control and ppl should stay home

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ExcitementRelative33 t1_jchhbum wrote

Only in New Yrk, the world capital of law suits... It's not frivolous, I'm suing you for defamation...

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Individual-08645 t1_jchrjql wrote

How the hell did they think they were tracking them and deducting the cost? This is stupid.

If they are making a database or selling your data then yes you should be mad

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FrostyDog94 t1_jcht764 wrote

Seems legit. New York City requires businesses to put up a sign that says they're tracking your biometric data. The Amazon Go store was and didn't. It's not about getting them to stop tracking you. It's about making them follow the rules and put up a sign. That's the law.

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bpetersonlaw t1_jchub4r wrote

I mean Amazon violated a NYC law requiring a notice that you were being tracked.

On the other hand, this was a store where the whole idea is that you are tracked and add things to your bag and leave without checking out. What do people think was going to happen? Obviously they are watching to see who grabs what so they can charge your account.

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angryve t1_jchvlyy wrote

Replying to GhostOfKingGilgamesh (#2,247,971)

Dude. The government already has this data if you have any kind of social media presence and plenty of licenses for everything from Clearview to briefcam and anything in between. Your phone provides more usable intel on you than any biometric marker could hope to achieve (given the state of the tech)The problem isn’t the tool. The problem is that the regulations around the usage of that data, particularly by law enforcement, are basically nonexistent. More laws need to be in place to meet minimum viable standards of efficacy (because police can lower recognition thresholds, get a match, and use that as a lead) and what situations they CAN use it in. I think people overestimate how much the government tracks it’s citizens (most of us aren’t interesting), and underestimates how often they’re tracked and manipulated by apps on their phone.

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OptionalFTW t1_jchwpvu wrote

Oh no. A camera recognized your face just like a person can! WHATEVER WILL WE DO?!

my fucking Christ can we all collectively worry about shit that matters?

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Jnorean t1_jci29wf wrote

So, the lawyers will get millions of dollars and the customers will get a free year of Amazon Prime. 🤣

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Due-Ad2956 t1_jci35le wrote

Replying to pwdr7 (#2,247,549)

Yes , but they keep data on you using your face, what you buy , what time you come in and out. For years. Then they either use it or sell the info. To solicit

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monkeyhog t1_jci7sl9 wrote

I thought the facial recognition was the whole point of the physical amazon stores.

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Ok_Fox_1770 t1_jcid90c wrote

Just a sneaky form of live action observing what you look at… what you touch…. What draws people the most. A new method of data collection and observing shopping habits, plus no sticky fingers, should have David Blaine test the system try n steal a lava lamp or somethin. How good is the eye of god.

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Prophet_Muhammad_phd t1_jcifsnd wrote

How do you go into an AmazonGo store and not realize they’re using facial recognition and other tracking software?… Dod you think the store was operating purely on the honor system? Because New Yorkers are such trustworthy people to begin with, right?

This would be surprising if you walked into your local corner store, not a store built on walking in, and walking out with food and other goods w/o having to stop to physically pay.

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Muted_Sorts t1_jcimlzv wrote

Do the customers even receive compensation for their data? No. It's time for this to change.

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MajorNotice7288 t1_jcit3r7 wrote

How long until this level of surveillance becomes commonplace beyond the inside of these stores...

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Frymewitheggs t1_jciv8ry wrote

Not quite related to this story. But I was visiting New York in 2020 just before Coronavirus shut down the world. I wanted to show my Wife how an Amazon Go store worked. So I got the App slapped on my credit card and we wandered in. I futzed about picking shit up and leaving it down in wrong places. We leave and can instantly see our receipt.

We leave finish our trip and go home. About a month later. AmazonGo emails me saying they can't bill my card. So I update my card on my account with another. (First one was Visa second one was Mastercard)

They email me again telling me they can't bill me. I email back telling them they've got their choice of 2 cards to charge on if neither of the perfectly valid cards do not work. They have an issue with their payment system. Never heard from them again. So I got $20 dollars of stuff free from AmazonGo cos they couldn't bill me.

Probably not go in again in case there is a Beezo security bot ready to jump me.

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[deleted] t1_jcizor6 wrote

If you are worried about this shit, you are a criminal and have something to hide ROFL

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colin8651 t1_jcjysxx wrote

What what what!?!?

This is a store that tracks your movements and everything you do in the store and identifies what products you grabbed and took with you.

Somehow you were confused that it uses facial recognition as part of its technologies?

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UNSECURE_ACCOUNT t1_jcjzhe7 wrote

Replying to Jnorean (#2,249,056)

And everyone will gladly take that free year because everyone knew they were being tracked. The whole concept of the store is you walk in, grab what you need, walk about, and get billed later. Literally, the only way that happens is if the store knows exactly who you are, the second you walk in. Everyone in that store knew or should have known their biometric data was being collected.

But Amazon still needs a sign giving notice of collection like everyone else.

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Leather_Egg2096 t1_jck8qx7 wrote

If you were wondering why the rich were upset about people wearing masks....

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Shavethatmonkey t1_jcki7uy wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#2,250,853)

That's kind of a dumb take. Amazon collecting biometric data on everyone with no controls and using that data who-knows-how is a reasonable thing to be wary of.

You have a 10 year old account with ONE karma?

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