I love Sci-Fi but stopped after ep 1 of the Expanse. Too dull and dry. I know people have said it gets better, but to me, they should have done a better job in the beginning then.

It's a fantastic show. The first three episodes do a lot of setup and worldbuilding. Episode four "CQB" really takes off. You should stick with it.

The last time I left was on episode 3. I started over, and now I'm on Episode 3 now. I'll keep going. Thanks

I watched the first two seasons and gave up. I never saw this great show people were talking about.

The books are great.

The show never got the feel right, and I watched all six seasons. Some of it is simple — the color is terrible, overdone and depressing. The pacing is slow for a series that really isn’t. The characters are made less likely to bee more gritty and dramatic rather than letting the plot create the drama.

Instead of just making the books well, they tried really hard to make it prestige tv like it was Breaking Bad or Mad Men. And it’s not.

I mean I agree when I started watching the first few episodes I was hesitant to keep going, mostly due to the actors seeming uncomfortable/unfit for their roles (especially Holden) and I was worried it might not have the budget and would appear to cheap.

It took about 5 episodes or so but there’s a point where you realize what these are the exact perfect actors for every character literally perfect.

And story/production wise everything is a build up and there’s pieces to the puzzle being built slowly that it’s exceeding more satisfying after every episode, when it reaches the end of a story line you feel really rewarded in what you are watching

Awesome show! And yes- it can get a little too "soapy" from time to time- but damn, do I miss it!

The second half of the first season is excellent as are S2 and S3.

It really fell apart when it moved to Amazon, season 4 was boring, season 5 was just garbage and season 6 was to little to late.

it took me multiple tries to get through the first few episodes. Once you do its well worth it. It was probably my favorite show while it was running. It peaks at season 3 but I still liked it throughout (not positive they stuck the landing in the final season but it wasnt a total botch job either)

I'll concur with the people saying that seasons 2-3 was probably the peak? Season 1, especially early on, was just a bit rough. Season 4 was a story that didn't translate well to TV, IMO.

Season 5 was cool, but if I had a complaint about it it was that maybe it needed to differ a bit more from the book, a big part of this book was that it was the first time you ever learned anything about the Roci crew's backstory besides Holden. The TV version was probably right to reveal some of that earlier, but they probably needed to change up season 5 a bit more to compensate for it because some of the stories ended up feeling like a bit of a drag.

To be honest, I really only liked the first season. I thought it was an interesting take on near-future sci-fi, you don’t see a lot of media that takes place in that particular niche, where humans have grown beyond earth but are still limited to what is essentially our galactic backyard.

Then they go all-in on the proto-molecule stuff, which destroys what made the show unique and as a result it becomes incredibly boring and generic.

That whole Naomi family drama part wasn't that entertaining in books either. Sadly for the show, it picked up again after it and that is something we might never see in tv show form.

If you don’t like the politics I don’t think you’re going to like the show. That is the show. Human politics. There’s some alien goo about but the alien goo is largely just there to exaggerate the effects of the human politics.

Yeah true. I think it's just one of those series where I really have to pay attention to what is going on. It's not a show I can just have on in the background and catch up on

Season 5 is my favorite of the Amazon seasons. None of them are good they weren’t given the budget to be good, but at least 5 mostly follows the plot of the book.

it takes seeeveral episodes to start to click for some people - the overall plot hasn't heated up quite yet and you're wondering why you should care about these people

try to stick it out to the season finale and see if it sticks.

@Op

I hated the first season. The detective neo-noir story didn't click for me. But if you make it through S 1 and allow the 'world' to open up a bit the series is really good.

People not feeling S 1, but loving the series overall is a thing on the show's sub. It's not just you.

Exactly. I'm just about to finish episode 4, and I'm like, none of these people are very likable. Except for the doc whose head got ripped off.

OMG in the show the Naomi family drama was the same three way conversation over and over again that went nowhere.

If that was the season where we finally got to see Amos go back to Baltimore I guess it was mine too. That isn't saying much as I hated all the Amazon season. Amos's return to Baltimore was such an anticipated event and it was just such a nothing burger bullshit series of events.

Season one was my favorite and what I felt was closest to the sort of real life people and co workers mixed up in big events in a future but grounded setting tone of the first six or so books. Somewhere in season two the tone starts shifting to standard TV sci-fi and they start including stuff like more sound in space instead of reverberated sound from ship hulls that they used more in season one. Plus, some characters personalities get little larger than life but it doesn't get too bad.

I still like the rest of the series. There are great moments and sequences throughout and really good performances from the main cast along with the ancillary characters.

these assholes grow on you

Episode 4 is a glimpse of the magic of the rest of the show

It's alright

Not many space operas nowadays

Agreed. End of season 4 was great, but the first half and all of the final 2 seasons were terrible

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Expanse is fucking awesome.

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I understand why you found the first few episodes difficult: I did to. I listened to others and stuck it out and really glad I did. S1 is very important as it pretty much sets the rest of the series. If you like a big scifi series, get past S1 and it really pays off.

I got up to episode 7 or so. It is starting to get better for sure. Now that Miller and the crew just met up

Yep. The last few episodes really start to make the story move. If you think S1 ends strong, S2 should blow you away.

Man I really wish it wasn't cancelled. I loved the Expanse.

Timmy is my favorite character.

Cool Space Battles. Real well developed characters. Great world building. Cara Freaking Ge.

It didn't really click for me until Season 2. But now it's one of my favourite shows ever.

Don't bother watching the Amazon seasons.