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GeneralOrchid t1_iu4jy2t wrote
wtf CNN documentaries were pretty good
The_Lone_Apple t1_iu4m5aj wrote
Cost cutting should include the layers of his pals who are VPs and his own salary as well.
Goddamnjets- t1_iu4njli wrote
It seems like sailing the high seas for me really paid off for this one. With the exception of American Dynasty: The Kennedy’s, I have the entire CNN Original Documentary series catalogue to watch. Thank goodness.
I couldn’t care less about CNN in regards to news programming, but their documentary/Original series department was honestly really special, and created a ton of good content that taught a lot. I’m glad I won’t be missing on much to add to my collection, but it also sucks that this department is getting gutted.
welltherewasthisbear t1_iu4pgub wrote
They’re getting rid of the only watchable stuff on CNN.
comrade_batman t1_iu4r8v9 wrote
He has to settle for Little Italy.
AlfredosSauce t1_iu4rsyw wrote
How the hell is he going to find that, it’s so small.
gmharryc t1_iu4saey wrote
I loved the decades series.
gman1951 t1_iu4snpj wrote
That's what she said.
acosmichippo t1_iu4t4bi wrote
what does this have to do with pirating?
RooLoL t1_iu4tcpc wrote
Have rewatched them multiple times. Fantastic.
Goddamnjets- t1_iu4ttrc wrote
Well given how awful streaming has become in general when it comes to even distributing content that’s already been made, it’s nice to know I will always be able to watch all the CNN documentaries for free, instead of either paying anything for Discovery+ or whatever bullshit they’re gonna try and package their CNN content onto, or just not seeing the content at all because Zaslav, Licht, or whichever rich dipshit is in charge for CNN would probably rather want a quick tax write-off by getting rid of the content all together.
It was good that I pirated this stuff before it becomes very hard to find.
lord_pizzabird t1_iu4ug0j wrote
An interesting move, given that CNN has actually had some success with original series and films. Talking about Bourdain and their retrospective shows narrated by Tom Hanks, it seemed for a while like this was the only draw the network even had remaining.
Goddamnjets- t1_iu4uizy wrote
1968 - The Year That Changed America is also fantastic, same with Parts Unknown, Race for the White House, American Dynasty, Tricky Dick… It really sucks that the documentary department is pretty much coming to an end
acosmichippo t1_iu4usf5 wrote
> It was good that I pirated this stuff before it becomes very hard to find.
that's what I'm getting at, CNN cancelling future programs doesn't stop people sharing the old ones.
RooLoL t1_iu4uz4f wrote
Yeah seriously. Other comments in this very thread that are saying the same thing but they are removing or reducing what was best about CNN.. All fantastic series/documentaries and I have always looked forward to their new releases. Shame really.
Laserblaster t1_iu4v13g wrote
I'm pretty sure the Italy series has been the most successful program on CNN
Laserblaster t1_iu4v7v3 wrote
Maybe if you signed up for CNN+ they wouldn't be cancelling all of these documentaries
Goddamnjets- t1_iu4vcyz wrote
That’s fair. I will admit I just don’t trust Zaslav and Licht after the shit that’s already been done by them with gutting content purely for tax write offs. As much as I love the CNN documentaries, they’re also pretty niche, and barely crack any ratings on cable or streaming. There’s definitely a reason why the content hasn’t been reuploaded to HBO Max in well over a year now. I could definitely see them gutting the content all together if the write-off will cost less than putting the content back up.
Goddamnjets- t1_iu4vl5l wrote
I heard/read the content wasn’t even on there even if you did sign up. That’s how big of a failure CNN+ was lol
Laserblaster t1_iu4vvba wrote
It included the whole library of documentary shows
I'm sorry but you are singularly responsible for CNN+'s failure
mannyman34 t1_iu4wevd wrote
Why wouldn't they throw this kind of content on CNN+?
davwad2 t1_iu4wfsq wrote
CEOs treat this concept like 2014 Thanos and Wanda/Scarlet Witch: "I don't know who you are."
Goddamnjets- t1_iu4wsfe wrote
Noooooooooooooooo 😭
Bob_Tu t1_iu4zca7 wrote
Hell yeah more center left
SomeKrazyGuyUKno_v2 t1_iu4zl18 wrote
CNN made series and films?
SweatyNomad t1_iu4zy29 wrote
Not disagreeing, but think some or most of those high end shows would have found a home somewhere.. a bunch of the shows quoted aired on other channels globally, like Stanley Tucci on the BBC . Not a big jump to assume they'd become the lead broadcast partner.
Thunder_nuggets101 t1_iu51i6q wrote
Yes, but he’ll have a Big Night.
scootscooterson t1_iu51wwe wrote
As is tradition.
Sherry__Niles t1_iu52r79 wrote
Agreed, I really hope it gets picked up somewhere else, but where?
lord_pizzabird t1_iu56tr7 wrote
Boardain's show actually went on to HBO Max syndication heaven. So, you're probably right.
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RedDurden_00 t1_iu5bayk wrote
So no 2010’s decade season?
SeanOuttaCompton t1_iu5cki4 wrote
This is what happens when you attempt to launch your own streaming service and it hemorrhages so much money it doesn’t even last a month
maddalena-1888 t1_iu5cr75 wrote
Only Tucci enjoyed it. The rest of us had to just look at the food.
SeanOuttaCompton t1_iu5d95g wrote
Some people just really like injecting their own hobbies into a conversation.
“Hey Dave, did you see Black Adam?”
“Yeah I was able to find a 4K torrent and after verifying that the file was secure I downloaded it and played it in my home theater I’ve spent roughy 10 thousand dollars on”
“Oh that’s… fun I guess. ….hey Cindy did you see black Adam?”
agen_kolar t1_iu5g63w wrote
Why does this feel like a natural decision based on CNN moving more to the right when it comes to news?
MulciberTenebras t1_iu5mdu8 wrote
If you want to keep the far-right base, you can't go having documentaries that discuss factual history or series that travel the world to showcase other cultures.
ChiefGrizzly t1_iu5n5pj wrote
It was successful here in the UK. Perhaps the BBC?
agen_kolar t1_iu5n7up wrote
That’s exactly what I was insinuating.
curiousity_cat99 t1_iu5oiz5 wrote
Honestly I pirate it because it’s literally unavailable in my region most of the time. Their decades series is some of their best work too, which is a shame.
curiousity_cat99 t1_iu5onz9 wrote
They’re actually very well done, Tom Hanks produces them and I was looking forward to possibly the 2010s next.
Lt_Frank_Drebin t1_iu5r4xj wrote
This decision can be traced right back to David Zaslav, the CEO of Warner Brothers who also own CNN. He's at the helm of a giant media conglomerate that's just bought another and needs to cut costs and make money, which he's been doing a tonne of. Some of his other items he's killed so far:
- CNN+
- Batgirl
- HBOMAX
- Raised by Wolves.
If it isn't going to make a lot of money quickly, or can be produced very cheaply, it's going to be gone.
NotRatedPG t1_iu5sovw wrote
That is too bad. The only good thing about CNN is the documentaries!
FelixTheEngine t1_iu5sq0l wrote
No there is no one Italy. but I gained about 10 pounds late night snacking after jealousy watching Stanley eat his way through figuring that out.
dont_shoot_jr t1_iu5szwe wrote
I’m glad he’s getting food and won’t have to partake in any hunger games
dont_shoot_jr t1_iu5t7yk wrote
Ok so here’s my pitch: a travel show except I’m an ignorant and overly confident Fox News guy
“How can you not have Taco Bell in Spain?!”
Paulimus1 t1_iu5ucso wrote
Why they didn't call that show La Tucci Vita I'll never know.
ispeektroof t1_iu5x4u5 wrote
Need more Tooch!
blindedbyhindsight t1_iu5x5qt wrote
Cnn makes films?
chairmanrob t1_iu5zpvq wrote
Boomer demographic is dying out. Makes sense to cut it now. No one with a lead-free brain watches that garbage.
makeitmorenordicnoir t1_iu5zytc wrote
It’s IN the computer!!
makeitmorenordicnoir t1_iu603z4 wrote
Someone at CNN figured out he knew where it was all along……🙄
MacMac105 t1_iu609hd wrote
My mom is going to be in shambles.
donvito716 t1_iu60nr4 wrote
Well, they had to cancel the only thing that was watchable on the channel. Gotta keep brand consistency.
agnesweatherbum t1_iu62e5q wrote
Hulu!! I still watch them there.
123xyz321Z t1_iu62wx3 wrote
We just watched “Beethoven” with the kids. After watching some of Tucci’s CNN shows it was funny to see him as a good ball bad guy.
KnotSoSalty t1_iu6554v wrote
Pandora’s Promise is legit one of the most eye opening docs of the last 20 years.
bubbib2 t1_iu657pc wrote
not in the US, though, right?
agnesweatherbum t1_iu68jhs wrote
I’m in the US! I also have Hulu Live, so I don’t know if that makes a difference. I love these fucking docs, they’re great to fall asleep to.
bubbib2 t1_iu68tr6 wrote
yeah i just checked and i have to have Hulu Live. life is pain, darkness.
flaker111 t1_iu6brg2 wrote
> Raised by Wolves.
2nd season was crazy AF.
sue tree and the sea monster kidnapping and feeding the rape baby.
i did want to see where it ended up though.
PainStorm14 t1_iu6ccpa wrote
Honestly, it's the best thing CNN ever made, I loved it
Your__Pal t1_iu6dlf8 wrote
And supposedly Cartoon Network.
Lambchops_Legion t1_iu6dtix wrote
Wait till you hear about Little Little Italy
Dream_A_LittleBigger t1_iu6fz54 wrote
Good.
Just give me some dry ass news 24/7.
That’s all anyone wants.
Fryceratops t1_iu6i58l wrote
That is a good thing for a news network
Dudecity t1_iu6iybg wrote
Did they put the whole series on HBO Max? I know the first season was on HBO Max.
guiballmaster t1_iu6qa4m wrote
I think they migrated them to discovery+
downonthesecond t1_iu6qolh wrote
Weird, I keep hearing CNN is a news station, not an entertainment channel like FOX News.
bubbib2 t1_iu6smlp wrote
i just bought a month and it looks like CNN originals are there EXCEPT for the Decades series. we don’t deserve this pain.
SpecificAstronaut69 t1_iu6u2vq wrote
"We have Italy at home."
SpecificAstronaut69 t1_iu6ubvo wrote
"Turns out that black people sitting wherever they want on the bus didn't cause the earth to open up and swallow all civilisation."
MulciberTenebras t1_iu6ujap wrote
CNN's new boss: "YOU'RE FIRED! GET 'EM THE FUCK OUTTA HERE! RELEASE THE HOUNDS!"
donsanedrin t1_iu6via6 wrote
[Stanley Tucci after hearing the news]: "....eh, I'm still visiting Italy next month."
pittypaterson t1_iu7342j wrote
Give the people what they really want…Chris Cuomo.
TacticalTuchel t1_iu736qj wrote
It was on there, then moved to CNN+ with he first season remaining on HBO max, and then never moved back once CNN+ crashed.
TacticalTuchel t1_iu73co1 wrote
An Idiot Abroad
kedelbro t1_iu73egf wrote
That’s what makes it interesting though. These shows WILL be made no matter what. Zac Effron got a second season of a travel show, for crying out loud (and I actually enjoy it for what it is!)… so why is CNN choosing to allow these shows to go elsewhere?
Do they really think enough of the cable news market share is up for grabs that to make that shift worthwhile?
bilyl t1_iu743ex wrote
They’re not. If you read the article it says they’re discussing making an in house division rather than 3rd party commissions.
kedelbro t1_iu74zd5 wrote
So they will make their own docuseries. Interesting.
Will likely be a tough growth period unless they can lure someone away from ZeroPointZero
HarryCallahan19 t1_iu75sew wrote
The ONLY thing CNN has going for it is Stanley Tucci……
ChrisCinema t1_iu78gxn wrote
This is such as an asinine decision. CNN's original documentary series and films were actually worth watching.
AndyOsterbauer t1_iu79sn0 wrote
You and me both. They’re so damn good. I check constantly to see if they pop up anywhere and nothing. It was great when they were on Netflix and then HBO Max. Bring them back!
AndyOsterbauer t1_iu7a05y wrote
Is it all the episodes? Like 60’s through The Movies? That would be clutch and might get me to cave and get Hulu Live TV finally.
AndyOsterbauer t1_iu7agqm wrote
They announced the 2010’s in May for what will be next year at this point. They better keep that cause I was really looking forward to them.
AndyOsterbauer t1_iu7ajcq wrote
I will be very disappointed. They announced it was happening back in May. Was really looking forward to it too, so I hope it still happens.
theproducer1980 t1_iu7bzkx wrote
David Zasloff at it again, fucking up everything that is good.
Disastrous_Drive_764 t1_iu7cs48 wrote
Well that’s a shame. Literally the only thing I watch on CNN is Stanley Tucci’s show. It’s a fun escape.
af_echad t1_iu7hno7 wrote
Yea like people can say all sorts of things about CNN and especially its recent moves. I'm not here to be some ultimate defender of CNN.
But if this means that I can tune in on a Sunday night for 15 minutes to get caught up on the day's news instead of having it be a documentary, I'm down for it. It's been frustrating me for a while that these stations pretend that just because Sunday nights aren't big ratings nights (I assume?) that nothing newsworthy occurs then. Or that there aren't people who keep non traditional hours who want that time for news.
reb678 t1_iu7k6vw wrote
This is what HeadLine News was supposed to be all about. A 20-30 minute rotation of the news that you could tune into and catch up on. Then HLN started doing all those strange murder reality shows after 8am. Screw that. I want my news back people.
thislife_choseme t1_iu7ogmg wrote
The Stanley tucci series is such a self indulgent piece of trash show.
Great you’re Italian and get to go to Michelin star restaurants on someone less dime, which is probably a tax write off, it’s a dumb premise for a show and is just like celebrity worship billionaire porn. 🤮
DoneDidThisGirl t1_iu7oncw wrote
Big fan of all those CNN original movies?
agnesweatherbum t1_iu8jpaw wrote
Yup, it’s all of them. Totally worth it in my opinion.
Shower_caps t1_iu93aw0 wrote
I watch more international news at this point, I’ve given up on American tv or streaming news.
supercoffee1025 t1_iu9c2fp wrote
With WB in so much debt the opinion shows are WAAY cheaper to produce than hard news and get clickbait ratings that’s why the networks lean into it so much.
Having a couple guys sit around a studio in DC for a few hours is so much cheaper than hiring a journalist to fly out to Ukraine and spend a few days gathering proper news with all the travel and security costs for a few mins of content.
It’s a bleak view but that’s sorta how these channels are thinking.
AndyOsterbauer t1_iu9c7yw wrote
Alright, I’m doing it. I’ll get some other content as well which will be the icing on the cake after getting those back. Been wanting to binge them again.
MrPotatoButt t1_iua7to9 wrote
They should move to that title when Tucci inevitably moves from Italian cuisine to French, and other hoity toity cuisines.
MrPotatoButt t1_iua80a0 wrote
Eh, I still prefer Bourdain, but obviously CNN didn't create his shows.
MrPotatoButt t1_iua8bda wrote
TV networks have had some success with scripted shows, but that doesn't mean they can match the economics of reality TV.
MrPotatoButt t1_iua8qcx wrote
Chris Licht has no pals at CNN; he's a hired commando looking to eliminate as many management positions as he can manage without fatally crippling the network's news collection.
MrPotatoButt t1_iua9gxe wrote
A shame. It was the Obama era. Trump's 4 years could be covered as a decade in itself.
MrPotatoButt t1_iua9o42 wrote
Hardly. Documentary format is a great way to spin a non-Trump right wing POV.
MrPotatoButt t1_iuaa1g6 wrote
I'm way more annoyed at MSNBC running Dateline reruns on the weekend. Also, CNN kept running those documentaries on a loop, in order to cut down operational costs of a slow news weekend.
MrPotatoButt t1_iuaaj45 wrote
Its the new owner's company. They probably won't gut WarnerMedia much; its like throwing away its value. What will probably kill WarnerMedia is the economy. We saw an explosion in scripted content for the past decade because the cost of borrowing money was cheap. All that money is drying up in interest rates. WM, as all streaming companies, will have to be pickier about what they produce, and less scattershot media production.
MrPotatoButt t1_iuaaye8 wrote
Coop's the closest thing to a newscaster that has any ratings on CNN. He's probably not going anywhere, unless CNN wan't to go with cheap, anonymous news hosts.
MrPotatoButt t1_iuab3cq wrote
No premise is dumb if it succeeds to make money.
MrPotatoButt t1_iuabl3l wrote
> with gutting content purely for tax write offs
What's wrong with that? They looked like losers if released anyway.
MrPotatoButt t1_iuac32n wrote
No, I think this is being driven by the drying up of "easy" money. You need a lot of money to produce a TV show. Cheap lending allowed streaming media companies to generate content on a whim. But they won't have that money available anymore, and all media companies are going to have to alter their project investment strategies.
TheManWhoClicks t1_iuaeyma wrote
CNN had Original Series and Films?
bunga_bunga_bunga t1_iuamoox wrote
This is incorrect. As in that's what the article says but the source is incorrect. They are actually axing originals altogether. Existing content will be available/licensed but there will be no new content. Period. It is not moving in house.
The Discovery folks are really bringing Warner media down to their level of quality. Or this is some trojan horse shit a la Stephen Elop.
I'm not really sure advertisers are still looking to reach boomers still buying cable or middle america that wants to watch Chip and Joanna convert a trailer into mcshiplapfarmhouse or emmy award winning Dr. Pimple Popper. So I'm leaning towards the stripping for parts theory.
Either ways, WBD is way overvalued given the trajectory. Yes even with the 50% drop since last year.
ConnorMc1eod t1_iuascg2 wrote
I can guarantee that most far right people have a very, very good grasp on history. History is one of the few academic subjects that actually has some Republicans teaching it.
thislife_choseme t1_iub9yxt wrote
The show didn’t make money which is why its getting cut. Also making money is the stupidest metric, Been plenty of shit shows that have made money.
dja119 t1_iubafpl wrote
I do a lot of work for Warner in Atlanta as a freelancer. It's pretty grim there understandably with the layoffs. Rank and file aren't very optimistic thus far, especially on the animation side.
MrPotatoButt t1_iubfajz wrote
Then they aren't stupid, from a shareholder's point of view.
chaoticmessiah t1_iubgug1 wrote
Yes, Stanley Tucci: Searching For Italy is one and it's amazing.
chaoticmessiah t1_iubgxu1 wrote
Wait, they're cutting Searching For Italy?
Fuck, I love that show.
Darmok47 t1_iubzjir wrote
I remember when Parts Unknown started and Bourdain left The Travel Channel to to go to CNN, he mentioned that the CNN leadership at the time was investing in original series because there's only so much news happening at any given time, and only so much people will watch.
I guess new management disagrees.
ihedenius t1_iudaanm wrote
Documentaries usually show up on Youtube. Not so with the CNN stuff.
I was blase when the 2022 Watergate series aired. Now I can't find it anywhere.
scuczu OP t1_iu4jn7l wrote
Chris Licht, the chairman of CNN, said on Friday that the network would stop buying documentary films and original TV series as part of its cost-cutting efforts.
"This was a very difficult decision to make," he wrote in an email to employees.