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Neo2199 OP t1_irj4u7b wrote

> In the mid-1990s there was an attempt to reinvigorate Doctor Who which went off the air in 1989. A television movie was planned as a backdoor pilot, which was being produced by Steven Spielberg’s Amblin Entertainment for broadcast on the FOX Network in the USA and the BBC in the UK. The film would introduce a new Doctor (the Eighth), played by Paul McGann. And the project came very close to having a sort of Star Trek connection with Leonard Nimoy. Following his feature film debut with Star Trek III in 1984 Nimoy began a successful career behind the camera, including the hit 1987 movie Three Men and a Baby, he continued directing into the ’90s.

> Producer Philip Segal: "I had several meetings with Leonard Nimoy who wanted to direct it. I met with him at Amblin [Entertainment], and we had wonderful conversations. He was genuinely excited about the possibility."

> "FOX did not want him to do it. They were concerned it looked very kitsch to go, ‘Aren’t we clever? We’ve got Spock from Star Trek directing.’"

> According to the producer, FOX would only allow Nimoy to direct if he agreed to play the film’s villain The Master, The Doctor’s longtime adversary. Segal considered the idea “insulting” to Nimoy as that “wasn’t the object of the exercise.”

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Monster-Zero t1_irj790t wrote

Eric Roberts: a man who won't say no to any role

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KingPizza1 t1_irjbe2r wrote

Insane! Still not sure there was any way to salvage this script, though. It's weird that you would pitch tv film about a time-travelling good-Samaritan to a new audience and then have it focus on a lore-intensive fight between the time traveller and his arch nemesis exclusively in contemporary san francisco and then also have him switch faces partway through the film. This movie was about as beginner unfriendly as it could've possibly been.

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Roook36 t1_irjbg1z wrote

A Talking Master??!?

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Drahima t1_irjcbtb wrote

Definitely would bring back Eric Roberts for new era of Who under RTD’s second wave. Would seem like the kind of casting he would do.

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scottishdrunkard t1_irjcrr7 wrote

FOX should have let him direct regardless. That would have been awesome.

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TiberiusCornelius t1_irjcw4g wrote

Ultimately as a fan I'm glad we got something that fits better into the overall continuity than some of the initial ideas that were discussed for an American reboot, but ironically those earlier ideas probably would've been a better starting point for onboarding new fans.

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qawsedrf12 t1_irje879 wrote

TIL Nimoy directed 3 Men and a Baby

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reddig33 t1_irjk7lw wrote

Eric Roberts did a decent job. Paul McGann is still one of my favorite Doctors.

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Temp89 t1_irjkgaf wrote

I recall Roberts doing a good job. The problem was everything else.

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Grafikpapst t1_irjmr3d wrote

It would be kinda fun to instead of a Multi-Doctor Storx having a Multi-Master one. I know we had the Series 10 finale, but that didnt have quite as much interaction between the Master as a proper special themed around them could be.

Roberts Master with Dhawans (or a new Master, whatever) could be seriously fun.

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xhabeascorpusx t1_irjmzwf wrote

Eric Roberts will play a villain in a music video for Kohl's Cash and a Costco hotdog

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Delicious-Tachyons t1_irjpxp4 wrote

Eric Roberts was a poor choice for an iconic villain.

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Redshirt-Skeptic t1_irjxdii wrote

Am I the only one that thinks that Nimoy would have been a fantastic Master?

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imgrandojjo t1_irk0459 wrote

Nimoy as The Master could have been incredible.

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marasaidw t1_irk38hv wrote

I think SF debris has pitched the only decent way to save it. start at the regen wake up in the locker not knowing anything due a a poor regen then get memories, bits of the 7th and what not over the course of the episode Play it as a mystery

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oomoepoo t1_irk6500 wrote

Say what you want but Nimoy as Master would've been at least interesting.

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Ex-Machina1980s t1_irk92qw wrote

I remember watching this and just hating it. Sylvester McCoy getting gunned down by gangbangers? The Master now a paramedic guy? WTF

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Angelwind76 t1_irk9b84 wrote

Even Sylvester McCoy has gone on record to say they should have done an origin story after the series was established. I get why they kept him in ("Look, this alien can change his body when the old one is about to die!"), but as a pilot they should have just came in TARDIS a-blazin' and let the Doctor do his thing.

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silk_1233 t1_irkal1u wrote

And the cosmic ballet continues....

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kingofstormandfire t1_irkg0ld wrote

I watched that tv movie a few years ago when I was really into Doctor Who and it wasn't that good. The only good things were the Eighth Doctor and the Master. I really wish actually we could've seen more of the Eighth Doctor outside of the novels because Paul McGann did a great job. The short he's featured in showing his regeneration into the War Doctor is fantastic.

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CommanderMaxil t1_irlf2dq wrote

Probably for the best, Nimoy could have made a good Master but was already too old in 1996. Who would have believed he was a paramedic

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MyredShadow t1_irlfss0 wrote

I have a soft spot for that movie. For all it’s flaws and missed landings, McGann is a wonderfully compelling Doctor. His audio Dramas are so much fun.

But Nimoy as the master could have been DARK, and I would love to see that.

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MyredShadow t1_irlg021 wrote

And that’s basically what they did with Eccleston… and that’s how I got hooked. I knew classic who existed but Eccleston was my first doctor. It took 3 episodes before I was googling the older stuff and trying to find out if it was a reboot or a continuation.

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Angelwind76 t1_irli8ij wrote

Eccleston was my first official Doctor too. I've seen some of the older Doctor Who on and off (and without context), but the return of the Doctor was my actual introduction to the show.

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TiberiusCornelius t1_irn8qjg wrote

That was one of the few things that carried over from Segal's original attempt at a reboot that he was working on with Spielberg's production company of all people. The Doctor and Master were supposed to be half-brothers who shared a Time Lord father but the Doctor had a human mother and the Master was fully Time Lord. I think the fact that they carried it over means he was probably still pushing for that story arc to turn up if the series had been picked up after the TV movie.

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