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Cocaine_Turkey t1_j5prgkz wrote

Sopranos walked so that Breaking Bad could fly. It popularized the complex, flawed male protagonist/anti-hero, which is what allowed BB to take it to the next level.

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Chataboutgames t1_j5pzrdd wrote

I wouldn't even say it's to the "next level." Walter White isn't some tony Soprano upgrade.

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FelineSwindler t1_j5pvmfw wrote

Yeah I think the reason why The Sopranos fell a little flat for me was because I watched Breaking Bad first. I still appreciate what it did for TV though.

I did love the ending surprisingly enough.

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tenaciousDaniel t1_j5rmwiy wrote

I watched BB first, and I like the Sopranos more. It’s just an amazing show. The dialogue is the best I think I’ve ever seen.

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Chataboutgames t1_j5pzy2r wrote

The claim to fame is the insane level of nuance to all of the characters that they really let develop over the seasons through ebbs and flows beyond just "every season higher stakes and more action packed than the last."

And the once in a generation performances.

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ReadyProposal t1_j5q5z4g wrote

You don't get the terms you're using, for sure: "Developed" is not a synonym for "improved." A person sinking into their self-involvement and paranoia is development, it's just not "growth."

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ReadyProposal t1_j5q5jat wrote

Tony and Walt are pretty equally loathsome. What are you even talking about?

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jazzmaster4000 t1_j5qtvwq wrote

They're talking about how sopranos as a show laid the groundwork so that walt could even be brought to screen. It isn'tt a critique of either character

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