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thaddeusgrog t1_j9re6x6 wrote

Time for a bit of the old ultraviolence!

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zebravoyager t1_j9rgkew wrote

And New Zealand has Dairies 😊 just mish up to the dairy to get a pie bro

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Coldinvenice t1_j9rhwpb wrote

This is something that never really made sense to me but I suppose it does if you think of it as a "milk bar".

We always just referred to them as a little shop.

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rammo123 t1_j9shch4 wrote

They're just vape shops that sell milk and lollies on the side now.

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RobinsShaman t1_j9rphgd wrote

A small shop and/or cafe, often part of a larger shop, that sells fast food and a range of dairy based beverages such as milkshakes and ice creams; a deli or delicatessen.

In the 1930's, Mr Adams opened a shop in Martin Place in Sydney based on the American diner concept. "Instead of selling sodas he'd sell milkshakes and hence why he called the business a milk bar — they'd sell milkshakes and you're served on a bar," Mr Donnelly said

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locri t1_j9rsd9i wrote

> A small shop and/or cafe, often part of a larger shop, that sells fast food and a range of dairy based beverages such as milkshakes and ice creams; a deli or delicatessen.

This does not describe a small town Australian milk bar at all in anyway. Our milk bars sell bread and milk, as in, milk not mixed into a milk shake and bread without meat in between then sold at up to 30 times the price.

Again, my local milk bar sells kilo bags of beans for a few dollars.

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_Haverford_ t1_j9rxi22 wrote

Sooooooo, a deli or a bodega. Or even... Just a small store with a butcher counter.

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hypatiatextprotocol t1_j9rztr9 wrote

Hence the title: "TIL the way NYC has bodegas, Australia has milk bars."

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locri t1_j9sr0wi wrote

What "way"? The two are wildly different concepts that have at least become two wildly different things. You do not live in a food desert if you live next door to a milk bar because you can buy a loaf of bread for 3 dollars, but the same isn't true if you live next to a bodega that sells 30 dollar sandwiches.

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fanghornegghorn t1_j9tkjsz wrote

A bodega MAKES sandwiches but it doesn't exclusively sell them. It's a corner shop, that also has sandwiches.

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locri t1_j9w4hm7 wrote

OP is comparing a symptom of a deliberate food desert, the bodega, with something small Australian towns did to combat the food desert... Sell canned and dried food next to a single line of refrigerators that sell milk.

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idiomaddict OP t1_j9tcrix wrote

The ubiquity of them and their cultural importance to Australia is/was similar to how bodegas in New York are. It’s a paraphrase from the article.

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locri t1_j9w3zoj wrote

You know what else is culturally important in Australia? Telling it as it is; a bodega is a sign of food desert, a milk bar is a sign you don't live in a food desert.

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idiomaddict OP t1_j9wdy9p wrote

I’m not sure what the confusion is. A milk bar is different from a bodega. They’re not the same. However, there’s lots of bodegas in New York, and they’re recognizable as an aspect of home for New Yorkers. There are (or were) lots of milk bars in Australia, and they’re recognizable as an aspect of home for Australians. Again, it’s a shorter version of a quote from the article.

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idiomaddict OP t1_j9tcpo2 wrote

They’ve evolved quite a bit since their decline in the 70s began.

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locri t1_j9w4666 wrote

Okay, but is what I described in any way similar to a bodega? To me, bodega conjures images of people proud to live somewhere that inflames poverty.

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idiomaddict OP t1_j9wd6o6 wrote

The ubiquity of them and their cultural importance to Australia is/was similar to how bodegas in New York are. It’s a paraphrase from the article.

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_Haverford_ t1_j9rxevl wrote

A milkshake costs wildly more to produce than a soda, no?

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PublicSeverance t1_j9t2ngy wrote

Soda bars and milk bars competition was alcohol.

The modern day equivalent is a coffee shop. You buy an expensive drink and socialise with friends or meet there for a first date.

The intent of the business was to have a location for makes and females to socialise without a chaperone.

  • In 1965 women in Australia were finally allowed to drink alcohol at a public bar.

  • In 1970 the number of milk bars had halved.

The businesses still had great central locations in town, so they rebranded. They always sold fast moving consumer snacks like candy, chocolate and ice creams. The few that remained started serving take away meals, acting as a mini grocery store, ginger video rental, and more.

Now they are vape stores after 6pm and suffer the rest of the business during day light hours.

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Taleya t1_j9thcvk wrote

That is not a milk bar in the slightest.

Nowadays you get milk, bread, chips, icecreams, bit of a lolly bar if you're lucky, back in the day there'd be VHS rental and 20c arcade machines as well.

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Umbrage_Taken t1_j9rksmj wrote

One of them is named Korova? Yes?

And droogies go there to sharpen up for a bit of the old ultraviolence?

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HeavyMetalOverbite t1_j9rjmor wrote

They also have milk bars in Poland, but theirs are more like cafeterias.

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josetemprano t1_j9rfabt wrote

and if you live in PA, Jersey, NY, and some other east coast states: you have Wawa - and that is not declining.

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HeavyMetalOverbite t1_j9rjjku wrote

Wawa is just another chain of convenience stores, like 7-11 or Circle K.

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THftRM1231 t1_j9rtbn5 wrote

I hope Gritty haunts your dreams, unto the seventh generation.

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josetemprano t1_j9vtxbr wrote

I'd argue that wawa has more for sale than a bodega these days.

You aren't getting custom made sandwiches in 7-11, and the coffee at 7-11 is like army coffee

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mojomonkeyfish t1_j9w1mgl wrote

If you have a minimally functional brain, incapable of qualitative analysis then, sure. It's "just another chain of convenience stores". I mean, really, it's just a building, right? It's no different from a dense thicket or pile of sticks! Wawa is just another collection of matter.

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mojomonkeyfish t1_j9w11m5 wrote

Honestly, I was rolling my eyes and all the Wawa gaga that was going on. Obviously overrated, right. But, I dropped in to grab a diet coke one morning when visiting some tap water only relatives, and grabbed a breakfast burrito, then ended up visiting every morning for the rest of the week.

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SARS2KilledEpstein t1_j9sa7l1 wrote

Bodegas aren't like soda fountains. Bodegas are just corner stores. Soda fountains were/are different.

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Chelzor t1_j9sgxlw wrote

I got “bodega” mixed up with “botanical” (magic potion witchy store) when I read the headline and was confused lol

I don’t think I’d heard of a bodega before

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Thelgow t1_j9tb6vz wrote

Bodega are just mini convenience stores. Basic products, not much variety. A few soda options, diapers, cold cuts, snacks, illegal antibiotics and what not.

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idiomaddict OP t1_j9tcbsr wrote

The ubiquity of them and their cultural importance to Australia is/was similar to how bodegas in New York are. It’s a paraphrase from the article.

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miker53 t1_j9re22u wrote

A priest, a rabbi and Crocodile Dundee walk into a milk bar

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nachiketajoshi t1_j9rgri4 wrote

> A priest, a rabbi and Crocodile Dundee walk into a milk bar

The bartender says, ‘What is this, a joke from 1970s?’”

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Director-Thick t1_j9tb644 wrote

Crocodile Dundee looks over and says "You call that a punch line? THIS is a punch line"

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wendalpendal t1_j9spjd4 wrote

Any Australian want to admit what they were really called in the 80s and 90s by a lot of people?

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gefffffo t1_j9taici wrote

Mixed Business in the western suburbs of Sydney as i recall

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OldMork t1_j9sgnuc wrote

Pepes Bodega is the best, they sell 70% rom in wine bottles.

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Mr_Mojo_Risin_83 t1_j9t9atw wrote

Must be an eastern thing cuz we don’t call them that in west Oz. Tuck shop or deli

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quooo t1_j9tmi2p wrote

"Tuck shop" is what everyone called our school canteens back when I was in school (Canberra, late 90s to late 2000s).

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QHUNK t1_j9tlm9c wrote

In Denmark bodegas are bars

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TimeTraveler420 t1_j9tp7wx wrote

From a person who has visited NYC recently. It’s no surprise to me. A small bottle of Natalie’s lemonade was $6 at a bodega. I can get a half gallon at the supermarket for that.

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guiltyofnothing t1_j9tvs47 wrote

It really depends on what neighborhood you’re in. If you’re in Williamsburg and go to Sunac, then yeah — you’re gonna probably pay $6 for a bottle of Natalie’s.

Most bodegas are a lot less fancy. Get a chopped cheese, a loosey, a small coffee, and pet the bodega cat. That kind of thing.

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TimeTraveler420 t1_j9tw0l7 wrote

I was actually staying in Williamsburg when I came to this revelation. NYC is expensive in general.

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guiltyofnothing t1_j9twswb wrote

Yep, it really is but it’s usually worth it.

Fancy “organic” bodegas in places like Williamsburg are a different animal than the usual ones you see in other neighborhoods.

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Linkcastle t1_j9u6gi5 wrote

I live in a rural Area in Australia, and while they aren't as common as they used to be, they're still around. It wasn't uncommon to see a 16 year old behind the counter, especially during the summer.

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godamen t1_j9v2mls wrote

That sucks, bodegas are awesome.

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Adrian_Alucard t1_j9v6dt1 wrote

Spanish bodegas are better

https://d35hsl9am8s2ta.cloudfront.net/public/images/2019/04/bodega-ruta-del-vino.jpg

https://www.luciavigilarquitectos.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/bodegas.jpg

(In Spanish a bodega is a place where you store and produce wine)

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godamen t1_j9vc2g3 wrote

Interesting! I feel like I should know this considering how much time I've spent at wineries and wine caves in Valle de Guadalupe, MX. I suppose when you spend that much time tasting wine, certain bits of your memory fail you.

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locri t1_j9rmydx wrote

Yes.

And one of the close ones to me sell bags of beans for 4 dollars a kilo. This isn't a bodega because the intention is to sell food products but not cooked food.

The issue is that affording labour is challenging but not affording food.

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idiomaddict OP t1_j9tck0p wrote

The ubiquity of them and their cultural importance to Australia is/was similar to how bodegas in New York are. It’s a paraphrase from the article.

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MustardSnake t1_j9t6et2 wrote

Aussie here, don't talk shit, cunt.

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