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Anoobis_117 t1_irzcnji wrote
incest dog lore incoming
MikemkPK t1_irzf9np wrote
No. If you breed together A & B to get C, you can just do that a few dozen or hundreds of times to get the gene population without resorting to incest. If the new desired breed doesn't happen every time, simply don't allow that line to reproduce again.
WirSindGeschichten t1_irzi8zs wrote
Similar story with the Norwegian Lundehund. Down to just a couple of breeding dogs at one point. Coincidentally, like the Shiba Inus, Lundehunds are super flexible and bend their head all the way back to touch their back.
sprint6864 t1_irzj6xc wrote
I have 5, interesting to know they all have a single ancestor like this
SumoNova t1_irzjbkr wrote
The article says they were near extinction until preservation found breeding pairs. Wouldn't you be able to "work backwards" and re-breee them from scratch by going back to whichever combo made them in the first place? Or would this make a "new" breed? I guess you'd have to be SUPER selective with the breeding and strict about which traits you keep? It's probably not as simple as I imagine.
winklesnad31 t1_irzjht6 wrote
Well all life on earth is descended from a common ancestor.
dogsdomesticatedus t1_irznxb3 wrote
And this is why pure bred anything is inbred and deeply problematic. Strays for the win.
GiantIrish_Elk t1_irzobom wrote
Some breeders are and have done this with breeds that have recently gone extinct but these have been breeds that were created in the last century and we know or have a fairly good idea of the original breeds used to create them. For dogs this old the one or more of original breeds used to create it are most likely extinct.
_pleasesendhelp t1_irzsbui wrote
i wonder how these things are confirmed
wallabee_kingpin_ t1_irzt61y wrote
>bend their head all the way back to touch their back
All dogs can do this.
Source: I had to do this to my mixed-breed dog every day to make sure she wasn't having a recurrence of inflammation in her spine. The vet said it's abnormal if they can't do it.
Mr_Mojo_Risin_83 t1_irzukmo wrote
this is only one human lifetime. we have pretty detailed records of everything going back to 1930
_minus_blindfold t1_irzxg5p wrote
The Genghis khan of doges!
l-_-lSmoke t1_irzxofe wrote
I mean technically you can say that about every breed of dog.
BobbyP27 t1_is01je7 wrote
But big Al says dog's can't look up
Cohibaluxe t1_is01qjg wrote
If you go back far enough, sure, but then it wouldn’t be the same breed every time.
WattebauschXC t1_is01qnn wrote
So... they are Ishi Inu?
Ok-Seaworthiness4488 t1_is07k3w wrote
Ishi? More like Ichi
October23rd2077 t1_is0915a wrote
Wow
Nikamba t1_is0a7e8 wrote
In the town where Ishi lived there is a statue of him. It's likely possible to go visit that town.
TheDrGoo t1_is0anfv wrote
I don’t know if you’re being sarcastic but that’s not what common ancestor means
AnXioneth t1_is0axee wrote
The mythic single cell All Mother
AdminsAreLazyID10TS t1_is0defc wrote
It goes:
Purebred means inbred.
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Dragmire800 t1_is0hn3q wrote
Um, yes it is. The one lifeform that diverged into all modern life is indeed the common ancestor of all life.
All life is descended from a common ancestor. Otherwise, there would have to have been two completely separate instances of the formation of life, both of which have survived until now
No_North_8522 t1_is0iaim wrote
Nothing is stopping a purebred from being a stray
assumetehposition t1_is0j7e5 wrote
And half of them are named “Shiba”
XenaWolf t1_is0krvh wrote
It's a species, not a single individual.
Dragmire800 t1_is0l45w wrote
No, it’s a single individual. One individual lifeform came to be in the primordial oceans of earth, which multiplied and branched out. A whole species didn’t pop out of volcanic vents and start breeding, it was one little guy
Maybe other individuals were also created, but they weren’t the same species, they didn’t evolve, they were formed. They don’t factor into our evolution, only one individual ended up as us
XenaWolf t1_is0ly0d wrote
In biology and genetic genealogy, the most recent common ancestor (MRCA), also known as the last common ancestor (LCA) or concestor, of a set of organisms is the most recent individual from which all the organisms of the set are descended.
The possibility is mentioned, above, that all living organisms may be descended from an original single-celled organism with a DNA genome, and that this implies a single origin for life. Although such a universal common ancestor may have existed, such a complex entity is unlikely to have arisen spontaneously from non-life and thus a cell with a DNA genome cannot reasonably be regarded as the “origin” of life.
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Edit: I didn't read close enough, you're right, it is individual.
The_Mdk t1_is0o9c0 wrote
Show me a pug that can do it, I double dare you
ST00PIDTHICEXEGGUTOR t1_is0ovj3 wrote
No wonder they are all insane.
Riderrod77 t1_is0wpbg wrote
so we had asexual dogs back in the days? you know with all this info at our finger tips we're not suppose to be getting dumber
Tsujimoto74 OP t1_is18ydu wrote
You're right. It helps to click on articles and read them. If you had, you wouldn't have left such a dumb comment.
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UnblackMetalist t1_is1hjpq wrote
Throwaway101world t1_is1mgf6 wrote
Ishi inu coin you say?
Clavis_Apocalypticae t1_is1qa92 wrote
Fences.
Leashes.
Doors.
Windows.
Tashus t1_is216xc wrote
Going even further, every living thing sends to be descendant from some single ancestor common to all.
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dacoopbear t1_is22gcf wrote
There's lots things pugs can't do that other dogs can like breathe
CHUPKARLOVEDAY-786 t1_is24jdr wrote
Man that's my most favourite breed.
metalshoes t1_is2jyny wrote
So cute. So horribly broken.
leojava t1_is2qz30 wrote
Are you telling us we're all incestuos cannibals?
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cows_revenge t1_is32gmp wrote
And yet your comment exists proving otherwise.
The_Mdk t1_is4k604 wrote
And so not even cute
No_North_8522 t1_is8h6m3 wrote
My point was they were likely talking about mutts and not strays, but even if you missed that point your comment is pretty telling.
Clavis_Apocalypticae t1_is8kv3z wrote
Nah, I was just trying to be silly, but apparently this crowd takes itself pretty seriously.
WirSindGeschichten t1_ise17dt wrote
asshair t1_isjwt5i wrote
Except that's not how it actually works. Pure breeds end up with very specific "desirable" traits that can only be brought out repeated in breeding. So father to daughter breeding, then father to granddaughter, then father to great grand daughter etc.
South_Ad_4500 t1_ithj4zt wrote
R/LookAtDaSheeb
rangeo t1_irzadgz wrote
Now if they can only cover their assholes.