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robocord t1_j4qlq4m wrote

“Xenophon! Come out and play-ay!”

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bolanrox t1_j4qlx8z wrote

its the Odyssey set in 1970's Brooklyn +The Bitch Mother from Lean on Me / the Chief from the Carmen Santiago TV show as the Faceless DJ

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thirdtimer_2020 t1_j4qm1c0 wrote

Interesting, the character trying to organize the gangs was called Cyrus.

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Desert-Storm-Born t1_j4qn3ow wrote

Ahh shit, next you'll be telling me the locals were called "Boppers" by the local DJ Town-Crier!?

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themagicbong t1_j4qoccr wrote

I remember playing the fuck out of a game based on this for PS2 back in the day, but also having zero clue who or what the warriors were, lol.

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bolanrox t1_j4qt41b wrote

My Kids school football team is the warriors.

Took several years for the last game of the 6th grade season for the other team to finally do the bottles clinking / Warriors come out and play.

I think i was the only one in the stands to get it, judging by the looks on the other parents faces.

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zZTheEdgeZz t1_j4qwuds wrote

The movie is also based on a book that is based on that story.

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WishOnSpaceHardware t1_j4qzt78 wrote

I seem to remember also this being a campaign mission in the original Age of Empires

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Aliensummer t1_j4r4e9i wrote

Wow this is one of the first movies I fell in love with, to discover a new fact such as this one is amazing to me

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dovetc t1_j4r4mb9 wrote

The History of Ancient Greece podcast just released their most recent episode about Xenophon and the Anabasis. Gives you the whole thing in about 2 hours if anyone's interested.

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scsnse t1_j4rs1u9 wrote

Interesting contemporary factoid about this movie: Ronald Reagan loved it and had it screened in the White House for him.

It’s fascinating that the race baiting, “tough on crime” conservative would love a work romanticizing urban gang members and their daily struggles. Perhaps, on some level as a young man who came of age during the Great Depression and who came from a working class family back then, he could relate in some way.

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Permanenceisall t1_j4rzpkq wrote

He’s the voice you hear when you’re finally back in Coney Island and the punks chase you in their car. You mainly hear him saying “I hope you fall!”

Also El-P voices Edge, the leader of the Saracens.

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shivermetimbers68 t1_j4s1brn wrote

There's a director's cut where Walter Hill inserts comic book style transitions to move from one 'chapter' to another. Kind of cool but slightly disruptive to the pacing.

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Cjlaw72 t1_j4s3pvt wrote

That's from the newer directors cut with that crappy comic book panel between scenes. So not really everyone who seen the film knows this and the longer directors cut is worse than the theatrical version.

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Cjlaw72 t1_j4s44pn wrote

🎶 Somewhere out on the horizon.... 🎶

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DEEP_HURTING t1_j4s7gtb wrote

You used to be able to watch the old Monstervision episode of this with Joe Bob Briggs, but some dickweeds at YouTube had it taken down. But what do you know, the transcription from Angelfire is still around. He brings the mythological aspect into the discussion, along with in depth examination of which subway routes they're using.

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Uri_nil t1_j4sccex wrote

Also it’s not the real Cyrus the founder of Persia and guy who resettled the Jews/paid for the temple etc it’s one of the descendants like Cyrus 3 or whatever. Long gone glory days.

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WR810 t1_j4sdaba wrote

This is one of my dad's absolute favorite movies. I've probably watched this fifty times in my life.

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kevlarbuns OP t1_j4sdbwa wrote

Ohhh, that makes a lot of sense. I’m kind of new to Anabasis and got to where they camp below the walls of Nineveh and marvel at an ancient city being so abandoned. I was getting a headache trying to contextualize the overlap.

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JohnDunstable t1_j4sdqv6 wrote

Walter Hill. Made many very good movies, and a few stinkers.

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paul-d9 t1_j4sg433 wrote

This is the very definition of a cult classic. Doesn't sound great on paper but everything about it was well done and better than it had any right to be considering the budget.

We would have an overall higher quality of cinema if the answer now wasn't to just throw money at everything. We'd have less self indulgent and overlong films like Avatar and more films that have to make use with what they've got and usually have less company interference.

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hk317 t1_j4si0rb wrote

I feel like Centurion with Michael Fassbender has the same premise/similar plot.

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Shadpool t1_j4sishy wrote

Yeah, I wasn’t a fan either. I mean, I understand him wanting the hardcore fans to know where the basis of the story came from, but the constant story paneling at each big scene threw it off in a big way.

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snow_michael t1_j4situg wrote

My Latin teacher told us this, and arranged for the school film club to show it, despite it being an 18 certificate

This was the same teacher who taught us how to make petrol bombs and ersatz gas masks, and encouraged us to obtain copies of The Anarchist's Cookbook and Steal This Book

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Lucius_Magus t1_j4sj1fu wrote

The same author is also responsible for the modern word "economics" which derives from his treatise "The Oikonomika" which roughly translates to "Household Management". It was a guide to rich aristocrats as to how to run their holdings and personal household.

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tiffadoodle t1_j4sltuy wrote

When my nephew was a kid, he loved The Warriors video game, then got into the movie

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xSympl t1_j4sqkys wrote

Stole a bunch of money from artists signed to his label and then closed the label without telling them ahead of time bc drugs, among other things.

There's a reason aes, cage, hell most the weathermen, etc,. don't work with him and it's not his choice unlike what he tries to imply

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MattyEC t1_j4ssppa wrote

I can't imagine anyone having heard of this movie without having heard of the backstory -- heck, the movie itself bragged about this inspiration in the opening scene IIRC.

I got into the movie as a teen when, pretty much out of nowhere, they decided to release a PS2 game on the IP, and I fell in love with the hammy B action and ridiculous outfits that looked like they belonged at a dragshow moreso than a gang war.

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StuartGotz t1_j4sumbt wrote

Who are the “pricks with ears” in the Greek version.

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Murmur322 t1_j4sx615 wrote

Also, in the book the Lizzies weren’t an all girl gang like in the movie. But after the director of the Warriors saw The Hunger Games he realized that women could be casted in action roles too.

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paul-d9 t1_j4sypq9 wrote

There have been plenty of mediocre big budget movies that rely solely on special effects since then. Otherwise Michael Bay wouldn't have a career.

Using James Cameron as an example, let's look at his movies in the 80s and 90s. You had spectacular films like Aliens and Terminator 1/2. Yes they were heavy in special effects but it never felt like a crutch. You had memorable characters and they were exciting. I don't remember a single character name from Avatar and I think I've seen it twice.

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madicusmeximus2 t1_j4t0xet wrote

This is odd. Watching The Warriors right now as I am skimming Reddit.

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onairmastering t1_j4t7hiw wrote

I saw this movie in Ice-T's apartment in NJ with his son.

We showed up for an interview and his wife was late, so he said "come on guys, get something in the fridge and sit yo asses down" so I did.

He stopped every scene to explain it, it was hilarious drinking Arizona at Ice-T's place and chillin', none of my co workers dared, I asked him questions and we just chilled, I will never forget that afternoon.

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Miketheoctopus t1_j4t7tc9 wrote

I wore a headband and denim jacket on Halloween with three beer bottles on my fingers. I had 3 people out of the few hundred I interacted with who got it lol

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onairmastering t1_j4t805b wrote

What? never see European/Asian cinema? those guys are still killing it. Just look at Nicolas Winding Refn, he's been doing his own thing and looks amazing every time, go get some education in foreign cinema.

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SonofBeckett t1_j4t8yxc wrote

Movies like Dead for a Dollar? I’ve gotta say Walter Hill is low key one of my favorite filmmakers of all time, from Warriors to Brewster’s Millions to the madness that was Streets of Fire. I think there are still really interesting filmmakers out there, and it’s easy to forget that 1979 also gave us Airport ‘79 and 1941. Bloated, studio cash ins and overindulgence are not a new thing.

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Aggressive-Level-683 t1_j4t9bmu wrote

I also learned this fact when I got the directors cut dvd and watched the extras years ago. Fascinating and such an awesome movie.

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Sigaromanzia t1_j4t9h8y wrote

I'm not saying there aren't cgi fests that only exist as screen candy. I'm saying Avatar is just a couple of movies over a decade apart, whereas movies like Fast and Furious are popped out every 5 seconds along with the spin-offs.

Your point is totally fine, just saying Avatar isn't really the best example.

And more into Avatar, it's really just a James Cameron passion project. He's trying to push the medium, while also having an affinity for open water based projects like The Abyss and Titanic; two other sfx spectacles that pushed envelopes.

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onairmastering t1_j4t9xpy wrote

It was such a special couple years for me, I worked with Grandmaster Flash, Mos Def, Afrika, Pete Rock... I got kidnapped by a bunch of Bulgarians one night after I told them, got home at 8 am next day hungover but with a story I will never forget! \m/

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HPLolzCraft t1_j4tatim wrote

This Cyrus was a pretender who hired them through the ionian Greek part of the empire and took them to challenge his cousin, I think, and they won the battle but Cyrus died in the process.

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Plarzay t1_j4u6hmf wrote

I watched this film last year for the first time! Completely agree with the sentiment here, honestly it had a quality about it that was just not present in so much I'd seen recently. Unlike anything I'd seen released in the last 10+ years.

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lev_lafayette t1_j4umiv1 wrote

Oh my goodness. I saw this as a kid in 1979.. Today I learned..

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bloodyriz t1_j4v0nyw wrote

I disagree though. I have both versions on DVD and prefer the directors cut. I find the comic transitions quite fitting. But then again since we both have expressed opinions, neither of us is actually wrong.

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SmittyComic t1_j4vb7xi wrote

always felt it was more like "the odyssey" more than anything.

they only wanted to get home, and ran into sirens, and club wielding "cyclopes" Always one eye painted different color.

the one character is named swan, and that's how Zeus seduced the queen in the story by turning into a swan. swan ran away with the queen of the orphans.

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ewatta200 t1_j4x3d3i wrote

Coincidently im reading a translated shorted version of the Anabasis right now

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